Letters to the Editor

Friday, September 4, 2009 at 2:12am

Hey, negative Nate

Just let me know if Larry Woody is able to say something positive about NASCAR?  Just once? 

I got tired of major league baseball once and quit watching it. I felt better about it..... Maybe Larry needs to do the same with NASCAR and let the rest of us enjoy it.  

Come to think of it I might take my own advice and quit reading his articles.

Casey Hooper, 37211

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291 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 9/8/09 at 10:16

Thank you, Ben, for your concern vis-a-vis my mental state.

The 9-7 post was made before I took my meds. The 9-8 posts are much more mellow. I had a superb weekend - on Oak Orchard Creek, on the shores of Lake Ontario etc. Did some busking with the C-tenor on Friday night. Went to church on Sunday (UU).

Is atheism a religon? No. Absolutely not. Here's why: Atheists don't pass the basket around during an offertory and they don't sing hymns. Atheists don't own edifices with steeples, pipe organs and bell towers. Atheists don't have a logo, like the fish, the cross , the Star of David (Magen David) or the crescent moon & star. The only time that we capitalize the word "atheism" is when it begins a sentence; it is a common noun, not a proper noun.

Calling atheism a religion is an old, worn-out canard...dried-out pulpit droppings....you can do better than that, Doctor Dover.

By: Kosh III on 9/8/09 at 10:26

http://www.hr676.org/7.html

A better choice for health care.

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 10:37

Ah... but atheism is a matter of faith, loner. Science has co-opted this faith and the scientists are as the prophets and scribes of old. And no they do not pass the plate. They send tax collectors of the 'offering' and gain their tithe at the muzzle of a gun from those who believe in their religion; and from those who do not, alike.

Their temple is the University and and they substitute the word Theory for Faith in a wholly inexcusable misrepresentation of their real scripture.

The field of science would benefit much from exorcism of faith and a discommunication of the tack of indoctrination that would make even the biggest evangelical wince.

But would the enterprise of science benefit? Not so much.

By: Loner on 9/8/09 at 10:40

Ben, you mentioned a teetering ...on the brink of economic collapse. I read something similar to this in the Jerusalem Post, by Moshe Asa-el, if I recall. He wrote a column that addresses the question, "What if America is in rapid economic and geopolitcal decline?" - or something like that. He wonders out loud what that would mean for Israel, of course. Unlike most Americans, most Israelis realize that their vital interests are not identical with ours and may even conflict with ours.

Moshe painted a bleak outlook for the USA under Obama and he suggests that Israel should actively seek a new partner(s) for anoher special relationship deal. He predicts a looming and huge inflationary spiral and a sea of freshly-minted US dollars with fractional value.

Hey, Lehmann Bros knew when to make Aliyah - September 15, 2008. That's when the stampede began. Moshe may be on to something.....I'm actually thinking about buying gold.....hopefully this collapse is all just right-wing wishful thinking.

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 10:40

It's funny how the google ads have picked up on the theme of the commentary.

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 10:53

Bernake printed up a ton of money toward the end of the year to stave off DEFLATION not inflation. Deflation is death to the capital economy... and in the process he doubled the money supply without suffering inflationary pressure. Merry Christmas Obama.

Bernake has since burned M1 down to about 85% of it's max to counter the inflationary pressure of Obama's democratic social wish-list of a stimulus. In the G8 Obama is being chided for his dated Kensian approach to economic recovery but he doesn't care. It's not about economic outcome to him its about social 'justice' and statism.

The main problem now though is that the world is voting no confidence in the direction that Obama, Pelosi and Reid are steering the country with anti-business, populist, green, and other ridiculous anti-American measures and plans; this by not holding our buying our debt. Higher interest paid by the US for our debt means higher projected deficits... and we are in a situation now where our total debt exceeds far more than 1/2 the GDP.

They are running it into the ground, Loner, and they are too smart to notice.

Oh well... Democratic Republic of Tennessee... Sounds Good to Me.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/8/09 at 10:58

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 11:37
"Ah... but atheism is a matter of faith, loner. Science has co-opted this faith and the scientists are as the prophets and scribes of old. And no they do not pass the plate. They send tax collectors of the 'offering' and gain their tithe at the muzzle of a gun from those who believe in their religion; and from those who do not, alike.

Their temple is the University and and they substitute the word Theory for Faith in a wholly inexcusable misrepresentation of their real scripture.

The field of science would benefit much from exorcism of faith and a discommunication of the tack of indoctrination that would make even the biggest evangelical wince."

Wow, Ben. That's really out there. As far as passing the plate, see how much has been donated to kiva from those who identify themselves as atheists. Also, many atheists are very dedicated to community volunteerism. So no, it's not like they send out tax collectors and expect everyone else to pay for their dogma. The temple is the University? So, education and knowledge frighten you and your ilk?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/8/09 at 10:59

btw, slacker - i haven't had the flu shot yet. it will be available through my work in the next few weeks and i plan on getting it then but it's just the shot for the season flu. the pig flu shot isn't out yet.

By: Loner on 9/8/09 at 11:17

Ben Dover wrote, "The field of science would benefit much from exorcism of faith and a discommunication of the tack of indoctrination that would make even the biggest evangelical wince." I dunno know what that means.

Science is based upon skepticism, not blind faith. Religion, on the other hand, is based upon blind faith, doubters and skeptics are labelled as heretics or atheists. They used to burn them alive, not that long ago, in Christian Europe.

Non-believers have always been persecuted by organized religion. Non-believers are not just welcomed by the scientific community, their doubt and skepticism are a prerequisite for bona fide membership.

By: Dragon on 9/8/09 at 11:26

"exorcism of faith" lol.

By: Loner on 9/8/09 at 11:30

Speaking of theocracy in the USA, I left a comment on the City Voices piece, by Kleinheider.

By: Loner on 9/8/09 at 11:37

Ben is right on one thing, the Google ads seem to be tracking our commentary. Big Brother Google is watching over us...keeping buyers and sellers in instant and constant contact with each other, for the greater economic good of all. Capitalism can be wonderful.

Now, for test purposes only, I'll introduce some fresh key words. Cannabis. Marijuana. Reefer. Bongs. There, that should attract the hyperlinked web crawlers.

By: Loner on 9/8/09 at 12:18

Gotta go...later!

By: Kosh III on 9/8/09 at 12:26

Cannabis. Marijuana. Reefer. Bongs.

By: house_of_pain on 9/8/09 at 12:35

Pornography!

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 12:39

My point is simply that Atheism is a religion, requisite of faith on par with Christianity.

Accept the fact if you like; or not. Real science will get you only as far as agnosticism. It takes Theory to get you to atheism and that 'theory' is wide and vast – more-so than is ever taught; and is analogous to religious faith. The difference in it all is that Christiantiy doesn’t try to mislead its followers as to its basis in faith.

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 12:41

lol... you guys have neutralized the religious Google ads.

By: brrrrk on 9/8/09 at 12:48

Bacon, bacon, bacon.....

By: house_of_pain on 9/8/09 at 12:50

Stacking chairs...no, wait...

By: Kosh III on 9/8/09 at 1:12

Drugs
Sex
Rock n roll
Readin
Ritin
Rithmetic
Valium
Librium
Quaaludes
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

By: Captain Nemo on 9/8/09 at 1:31

By: Loner on 9/8/09 at 11:40
Ben, you mentioned a teetering ...on the brink of economic collapse. I read something similar to this in the Jerusalem Post, by Moshe Asa-el, if I recall. He wrote a column that addresses the question, "What if America is in rapid economic and geopolitcal decline?"
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Loner once again I refer to the Fall of Rome. When Rome fell the world fell into The Dark Ages. If Rome falls a second time I do not see why the rest of the world would not fall into another dark age.

By: Kosh III on 9/8/09 at 1:35

Western Europe fell into hard times. The Eastern half of the Roman Empire continued to prosper for centuries. Not a valid comparison.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/8/09 at 1:40

I am talking about the Western half. It was the Chrisian half that took Europe into the Dark Ages, while the East prosper.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/8/09 at 1:44

Sorry that should be Christain half.

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 1:47

Although the trend-line sucks southward I don't see any reason to expect a collapse. We're self correcting. Either Obama's lilt hard to starboard will fail or he'll be neutered in the mid-terms by a newly open-eyed populace; far more reasonable than he is.

The Media may take the biggest hit of all though for their malfeasance in not vetting this guy.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/8/09 at 1:53

Ben the fringe right is so hellbent on destroying Obama, that it will push the whole world over the edge to get him. Even if it means the fringe goes over too. Their hate for Obama is that stronge.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/8/09 at 1:54

Balnket I hope your doing better.

By: Kosh III on 9/8/09 at 2:04

'Sorry that should be Christain half."

Don't mean to belabor the point but I am sure that Chrysostom, John of Damascus and other Orthodox believers are also Christian.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/8/09 at 2:20

Kosh I believe that there are many, I think that are good Christian. The problem is that the faith has been taken over by Charlatans.

By: brrrrk on 9/8/09 at 3:00

Captain Nemo said,

"Kosh I believe that there are many, I think that are good Christian. The problem is that the faith has been taken over by Charlatans."

Or as I now call them, Chri$tians.....

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 3:19

"Ben the fringe right is so hellbent on destroying Obama, that it will push the whole world over the edge to get him. "

Not true. Obama is the one who is pushing for anti-business, anti-investor, anti-energy policies that are killing our economy. The right is just doing what it can to put the brakes on his freight-train to socialism and is trying to make sure that the public finally finds out who this guy is.

If you call, "revealing Obama for who he is"; pushing the whole world over the edge then so be it.

By: brrrrk on 9/8/09 at 3:36

Ben

BenDover, your name suits you. That's exactly what corporate America expects out of people like you... to BenDover and take it in the a$$.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/8/09 at 3:37

Thanks, Captain. I am feeling much better today.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/8/09 at 3:38

So, does Motel 6 cater to degenerates? LOL!

By: brrrrk on 9/8/09 at 3:54

The white right is reacting to Obama just as they did to blacks getting the vote after the civil war and reconstruction. A lot of people don't realize that there were a large number of blacks voted into office after the war, one of which was Chris Rock's great-great-grandfather, ex-slave civil war veteran Julius Caesar Tingman. White's reacted by doing everything they could to push blacks out of office either through intimidation or through laws leading to the Jim Crow era. Sadly Democrats were a big part of that, but we've grown up and wised up. Make no mistake, this is not all about politics.

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 4:01

I often wonder after your posts, Brrrk, who taught you to think that.

By: brrrrk on 9/8/09 at 4:10

BenDover said,

"I often wonder after your posts, Brrrk, who taught you to think that."

It's called reading... you should try it sometime.

By: brrrrk on 9/8/09 at 4:35

Here Ben...

In your own local vernacular, "learn yourself something"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 6:26

Dude... I was born in 1966... that sh*t doesn't apply to me nor to the vast majority of Americans you are trying to project it upon. What planet are you from.

I grew up in the 70s 80s and 90s.... I've never seen segregation in schools. I've suffered a ton of black teachers and professors with chips on their shoulders about things I've never done; but geezzz man. come on up into the 21st century, will you.

We're a post-racial society now. We've even got an African president now for heaven's sake.

By: brrrrk on 9/8/09 at 7:57

Dude, I've got years on you. And what ever you say, racism still exists and the worst is here in the South. Why? Because of people who spend their lives living with blacks and still refuse to believe that blacks are no difference than they are. I grew up in an area that was mostly white, and while there was racism, it was a racism based on ignorance. They didn't know any better, but they learned. Here you have no excuse. Here racism exists based on institutional ideas. You should know better, but you don't.

In addition, I work for a company that has been in Nashville for 30 plus years and during that entire time there has never been a single black or minority in ANY kind of a position of authority in spite of the fact that the company is in a predominantly black neighborhood. The line of segregation was literally the wall between the white color workers and the blue color workers. There are still people working there, people of position that still use the "N word", although now they're smart about it... they whisper and look around guiltily while they say it. And that line of segregation would still be there if not for the fact that the company was bought out by a northern company that brought in minorities (just two people, before you get your knickers in a wad) to work in some of those authority positions... and guess what, they do a better job than the slackers we had in those positions.

Frankly, if you don't see racism, especially in this jerk water state, than you're in collusion for your own benefit because you don't want to compete, preferring the status quo, or you're a complete idiot.... or you really do believe that blacks and minorities et al are lazy shiftless slackers who are victims of their own doing. Of course, your family always being able to ride in the front of the bus all the time because you're white tends to make you feel like you're superior and that the world is just peachy as is.

By: BenDover on 9/9/09 at 5:42

Brrrrk... I'm sorry for your experience. It's not my fault.

If you have a problem with some racists take it out on them but don't judge others by their skin color or state of residence.

I recommend Emerson over Spike Lee.