Letters to the Editor

Wednesday, September 9, 2009 at 9:21pm

JFK all over again?

President Obama addressed the Nation's school children on Tuesday night.  At least he attempted to.

Many parents, obviously under the spell of GOP conservatives, championed by popular talk show hosts, chose to keep their children home for the day. Spurred on by the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck, they were advised Obama was only trying to indoctrinate kid's with his political agenda. They didn't want their precious kids listening to Socialistic/ Marxist ideals that are clearly anti-American and clearly unpatriotic.

Let's see: "stay in school," do your homework," "engage with your teachers," "try repeadly to succeed if you fail," and the divisive mantra: "Doing well in school may encourage you to help the country in the future".

Seems to me I heard a similar statement made by President John F. Kennedy in 1962: "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

Even then, another Democratic strategy to turn America into China and Russia?

Paul D'Argent, 37209

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139 Comments on this post:

By: idgaf on 9/10/09 at 4:30

Barry is no JFK.

By: Funditto on 9/10/09 at 5:45

True. He's black.

By: Kosh III on 9/10/09 at 6:00

True. Obama's not on pain medications and adulterizing with movie stars.

How about that POS that called our President a liar? More family values?

By: Captain Nemo on 9/10/09 at 6:14

Paranoia:

Of and over the right fringe of sanity.

Cares guns in shower

Tell children the boogeyman is black.

By: 2476 on 9/10/09 at 6:25

Eary polls are showing a big distain for what he had to say and that Americans are not for his Obama plan. We need to quit listening to what he has to say and watch more of what he does. It is really starting to show that he is from the same mold as Nancy Peeloser and Harry "dimwit" Reid .
The ultra liberals from the left wing are now starting to get scared very scared, since they have awakened the conservatives and the elderly.

By: dargent7 on 9/10/09 at 6:32

idgaf: Wrong. Dan Quayle was no JKF. Barack is way more akin.

By: Loner on 9/10/09 at 6:35

Good morning, Nashville!

Great letter, Paul. The 24/7 hate speech from the right-wing media has had an effect. The hysteria over Obma's speech to the school children is grim evidence that America may be ready to elect a black man as president, but many in America may not be ready to let that man actually lead the nation.

It's been ten months since McCain and Palin lost their bid to rule, their followers are still crying the sore loser blues. These are the same folks who derided the Democrats as "sore losers" after John Kerry.was thoroughly trashed by Bush-Cheney using those cut-throat Rovian tactics.

It's only a matter of time before some misled nutjob takes it to the next level. Biden is channeling LBJ.

By: sidneyames on 9/10/09 at 6:37

Somebody give me an answer to this question: Let's say that NFL offficials decided that they could play the game better and started up a team to play to play football on Sundays. Let's say that they really did have some tough guys who could stand and deliver in a game against, oh let's say the Titans. So now we have the Titans at one end of the field and the NFL'ers at the other end. But wait! Who will officiate? Oh, the NFL will still get to officiate. Hmmm! How can the O'bama plan work fairly if the government is the "officiater" ie, making the laws and regulating insurance companies and the government is a competetor? I just want a logical answer. No bull-crap please. The government can't regulate and play the game at the same time - fairly, anyway. Or can it? If you think it can, tell me how.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/10/09 at 6:38

From Yesterday

The biggest laugh of the day was made by Dragon. "Carrying a gun in the park after dark is like carrying a fire extinguisher in you car. Hopefully you will never need them.

Well you big dumb lizard the parks are closed after dark. Being in the park is a no-no. Activity after hours is suspicious and most likely illegal. So Dragon what are you doing after dark in the park with a gun?

By: sidneyames on 9/10/09 at 6:41

By the way D7, O'bama is trying to be Kennedy/Regan, but he's just not cut out for that. He's still a teenager (compared to the maturity of Kennedy/Regan) and he keeps changing his story, much like a 14 year old who's in trouble with his mom and dad and is trying to justify what he did -- or wants to do. He has great speech writers, I will give him that. But his speeches say the same old thing. Nothing new. He just conceded a little last night because he's groping in the darkness for a wall to lean against. I really do want to respect him, but his policies for health care are not logical or plausible. The Government cannot regulate and participate in a competitive field. It should be against the law.

By: Loner on 9/10/09 at 6:47

The US Postal Service is government-run and it competes with Fed EX, UPS, Airborne etc. The US government sets interstate shipping regulations and the government is in the interstate shipping business.

The government is in the wamaking business, yet privateers are now working alongside the uniformed personell. Blackwater and the US Army seem to work together pretty well, from a war lover's point of view.

The government owns and operates hospitals alongside privately owned hospitals. It seems to be working out.

There are other examples, Sid, but your closed mind just can't see them.

By: Kosh III on 9/10/09 at 6:47

Sid

What's you alternative? Let the insurance companies continue to rake in million dollar bonuses for the top level while putting bureaucrats between patients and doctors, while denying anyone who was ever sick in the past, while dropping coverage when someone gets sick, while doing all the can to not provide coverage, while maintaining de facto monopolies such as what BCBS has in Tenn?

By: Captain Nemo on 9/10/09 at 6:48

sidneyames if you love America, then just leave. America will be better off. lol

What a lame scenario you paint. NFL offical playing football? If that was to take place then it will be the fans that will officiate. Just like the right wing fringe nuts are doing now.

You are silly and let Rush do the thinking for.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/10/09 at 6:53

sid works for The Man aka Insurance Company.

Now someone has taken the 'you' from me. lol

By: Dragon on 9/10/09 at 6:54

Dargent - Did you really watch the speech? It was in the afternoon, not evening.

By: Loner on 9/10/09 at 6:56

The government regulates the automotive industry, now General Motors is "owned" by the government. Sid will probably boycott GM, just to show her patriotism.

These righties have a strange concept of loyalty, allegiance and patriotism. When the Bush family ran the show they waved the flag and marched in lock step. Now, with a black dude in the White House, they are talking about taking up arms against the government. With patriots like those, who needs treasonous traitors?

By: Captain Nemo on 9/10/09 at 6:56

Nut case thinks he is a warrior.

www.littlerush-want-a-be.com/i/know/it/all

By: Captain Nemo on 9/10/09 at 7:06

Loner with the righties....they are the enemy of intelligent.

By: Loner on 9/10/09 at 7:14

Obama gave the best example - there are state colleges and universities and there are private colleges and universities - they co-exist just fine, in fact they complement each other.

Care to respond, Sid?

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/10/09 at 7:17

Kosh,

While I agree that healthcare reform (to include tort reform) IS needed - I do NOT agree with the plan presented.

At any rate, I have a question for everyone:

Did Obama's speech change your position on healthcare at all?

By: Funditto on 9/10/09 at 7:18

I wonder if the FBI has a dossier on syd.

By: Funditto on 9/10/09 at 7:19

I love it! Every time he speaks, my sales spike.

http://shop.cafepress.com/design/26273654

By: Captain Nemo on 9/10/09 at 7:25

FBI....sydneyames: Floating in la-la land.

By: Kosh III on 9/10/09 at 7:28

Which does it better?

Arizona, like Tennessee, has testing stations for emissions control. There is at least one per county, a few more in the metro areas. These are just like what we have here and cost is around $10.
California has a similar system EXCEPT, the government does not run it, instead private businesses do the testing. Sooooo, every gas station, repair shop and shade tree in the state has testing as a service it offers. When I left CA in 96, the average cost was $30. I'd guess the cost has risen since that time.

By: Loner on 9/10/09 at 7:30

Obama's speech did change some minds...the polls prove it, just Google it. The guy is a great communicator, he makes the late, great Ronald Reagan look tongue-tied. Obama is already challenging JFK for the title of most charismatic president in modern times. We have elected a superb president. The right-wing losers are absolutely frustrated.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/10/09 at 7:30

The problem of being good at my work is that they keep calling me to work.

I was in hopes of learning just how the right-wing thinks. It well be needed when they start the next civil war.

If I can I well join in later or tomorrow. In any case see ya!

By: house_of_pain on 9/10/09 at 7:35

Loner, there is one really ugly word he continues to use : "mandate".
I don't care for that.

By: Loner on 9/10/09 at 7:41

He's talking about legal requirements, not the gay men's magazine, House.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/10/09 at 7:42

Loner,

Well, here's a poll prior to his speech.

BTW, I don't doubt Obama is a great orator - but I disagree that he makes Reagan look tongue tied nor is he as affective as JFK...but that's my opinion.

Obama disapproval on health care up to 52 percent
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090910/ap_on_re_us/us_ap_poll_health_care

By: sidneyames on 9/10/09 at 7:43

The US Postal Service is government-run and it competes with Fed EX, UPS, Airborne etc. The US government sets interstate shipping regulations and the government is in the interstate shipping business AND LONER, you forgot one important element: The US gov-ment is about to close hundreds of post offices and put those people out of work. Oh, the internet is taking over that part of the post office. The gov-ment has hospitals alright. Try using one. Are you one of the people who go to gov-ment hospitals? How's that working for you?

By: sidneyames on 9/10/09 at 7:44

Loner, Obama can read. Look at his impromptu speeches. He's got a case of the "George Bush" stumbles!

By: Kosh III on 9/10/09 at 7:50

Sis

Let me repeat a story about my neighbor.
He is a Vietnam vet, uses VA hospital.
Once a few years back he asked me to take him to the ER at the Mboro VA hospital.
This was on a SUNDAY NIGHT, the day before Memorial Day.
We arrrived at 8pm.
He was checked in, seen by a Doctor(not a PA or RN) picked up his medicine at the pharmacy and left at 9pm.
One hour total.

Can you get that at Vandy? Don't hold your breath.

By: sidneyames on 9/10/09 at 7:50

The government regulates the automotive industry, now General Motors is "owned" by the government. Sid will probably boycott GM, just to show her patriotism. Yeah, and Ford is the only car company last quarter to have a 20% increase in sales. GM lost sales. I own a Jeep. I love it. And yes, the FBI knows me. I'm an informant. So watch out or I'll inform on you! And Loner: "Now, with a black dude in the White House, they are talking about taking up arms against the government. With patriots like those, who needs treasonous traitors?" Gee, O'bama spent 9 months in the womb of a WHITE woman, so I have never considered him black. He's white to me! Kosh, insurance companies can be regulated by government regulations. The government could have regulated them years ago, IF the gov'ment were not so busy taking kick backs from them.

By: Kosh III on 9/10/09 at 7:51

uh... sid, not sis,
lo siento

By: Kosh III on 9/10/09 at 7:53

"The government could have regulated them years ago, IF the gov'ment were not so busy taking kick backs from them."

Now we know how Republicans get rich. Who's been in charge most of the time since 1980? 20 years of GOP Presidents, 12 years of GOP control of Congress.

By: dargent7 on 9/10/09 at 7:55

Dragon: No, I didn't watch the speech live. But every news/ cable channel is doing an autopsy on it. As they are on his health care plan last night.
Either the USA wants to spend $550. billion a year on "defense", with worthless insane wars, or spend the trillion or so on Americans at home with Universal Health Care. Seems a "no-brainer" to me, but you college educated types here in the south have a better idea?

By: Kosh III on 9/10/09 at 7:57

I guess that explains why the GOP controlled Congress and White House never even tried to eliminate abortion---they were taking kickbacks from abortion mills.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/10/09 at 7:59

Loner,

Here's a poll:

44% Favor President’s Health Care Plan, 53% Oppose
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/44_favor_president_s_health_care_plan_53_oppose

And here's his job approval ratings:

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/10/09 at 8:00

Kosh,

"I guess that explains why the GOP controlled Congress and White House never even tried to eliminate abortion---they were taking kickbacks from abortion mills."

How could they when the US Supreme court ruled it was Ok? I mean, I GUESS they could have tried to make an Amendment to the Constitution.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/10/09 at 8:02

Dargent,

"Dragon: No, I didn't watch the speech live. But every news/ cable channel is doing an autopsy on it. As they are on his health care plan last night.
Either the USA wants to spend $550. billion a year on "defense", with worthless insane wars, or spend the trillion or so on Americans at home with Universal Health Care. Seems a "no-brainer" to me, but you college educated types here in the south have a better idea?"

Ok...how about this...we pull all the troops back home, drop the money for the "worthless insane wars" and forget ALL about healthcare?

I would be willing to do that. Of course we'd probably have to go back to Afghanistan later on...but whatever.

By: sidneyames on 9/10/09 at 8:05

Kosh, my Dad was a vet. He had to travel over 3 hours to the nearest VA hospital; they treated him like dirt. So every body has a different experience. I've heard some horror stories about both VA and private hospitals. AND I've heard and have some good ones. At Vanderbilt, they save many lives. Many! I love Williamson Medical Center Hospital. I waited 6 hours. So what. I was sick. I had nothing else to do. The doctor there "saved my life" because he said if I had come 24 hours later, I'd be very sick - permanently - or dead. He's the only ER doc who followed up 24 hours later to be sure I was OK. Sorry, I don't want the government in my health care. I want to make all choices with my family and doctor. And the government has no track record in the car business yet; no track record with the banking industry yet and their track record in running the government is dicey, at best! I mean, look at the deficite. It's grown quite a lot in the last 10 months. Hmmmm! Bush must have done that!

By: sidneyames on 9/10/09 at 8:07

And by the way. I picked up a hitch hiker in Murfreesboro who was trying to get thome (2 hours away) from the VA hospital. He was about to drop dead. He had cancer and was dehydrated. I couldn't believe they even let him leave the VA, but they did. They sent him away, so he said and I believed him.

By: sidneyames on 9/10/09 at 8:09

Chief: this does not sound like an O'bama supporter: "Ok...how about this...we pull all the troops back home, drop the money for the "worthless insane wars" and forget ALL about healthcare?" I heard O'bama say that "the war in Afghanistan is a 'necessary' war". So you must have missed that. How can we pull out of a "necessary" war?

By: Loner on 9/10/09 at 8:12

Here's the CN poll that proves my point.

Here's the URL

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Here's a cut/paste snippet -

CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan
Posted: September 10th, 2009 05:01 AM ET
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Two out of three Americans who watched President Barack Obama's health care reform speech Wednesday night favor his health care plans — a 14-point gain among speech-watchers, according to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation national poll of people who tuned into Obama's address Wednesday night to a joint session of Congress. (end of snippet)

Gotta go now, off to Watkins Glen for the Vintage Car Race and show. A three day event. I'll post a blog entry about it. See ya!

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/10/09 at 8:23

Sidney,

"I heard O'bama say that "the war in Afghanistan is a 'necessary' war". So you must have missed that. How can we pull out of a "necessary" war?"

The point I was making is, if people are going to gripe about the cost of the war vs healthcare, then I say drop them both.

We will have to go back to Afghanistan if we do anyway.

By: dargent7 on 9/10/09 at 8:25

Chief: "Go back to Afghanistan"...for WHAT? The British and Russians lost their asses there. The terrain is too severe and "the people" are from the year 500 B.C. (no offense). Bin Laden is long gone from 9/11/ 2001. Get with the program.
How about a novel idea? Instead of spending $550. billion a year on "defense", let's get this puppy up and running,...the good ole' USA?
In 2009, no foreign country "want's us" anyway. No one will invade us. We're safe.
Our "values are safe and sound". No one can take away our "freedoms". We screwed that all up on our own. Who'd want this sh**t pile, anyway?

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/10/09 at 8:26

Loner,

Yes, yes, I saw the CNN poll...but since they have a dog in the fight, I don't consider their poll all that accurate. But I guess we'll see when the voting happens.

Frankly, I'll be glad when the vote is taken...and I'll be ecstatic if this miserable bill fails.

But either way, maybe afterwards we can address the economy and try to get those who invest in our economy (the rich and large corporations) to start employing and buying again, rather than scaring them into hanging onto their earnings and drying up resources for people to earn a living.

By: gdiafante on 9/10/09 at 8:32

Of course you don't consider that poll accurate...LOL

Hmmm...I see...scare tactics to the rich/corporations bad...scare tactics to ordinary citizens (elderly) good.

Gotcha.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/10/09 at 8:32

Dargent,

"Chief: "Go back to Afghanistan"...for WHAT?" Oh you'll see. Viet Nam had the boat people. We'll have to go in to save those who helped us --- OR sit back and watch them all died by terrorist hands.

"In 2009, no foreign country "want's us" anyway. No one will invade us. We're safe.
Our "values are safe and sound". No one can take away our "freedoms"."

Heh, I seem to recall others saying during the entire 1990s (post Desert Storm) that we were safe and sound and that we just didn't need as large a miliary and why not defund and cut back the military severely as they weren't needed. I knew it was a mistake then...then 911 happened.

" We screwed that all up on our own. Who'd want this sh**t pile, anyway?"

Ok...with this statement, I am very curious. You're OBVIOUSLY unhappy living in "this sh**t pile"...so why don't you move to another country and give up your citizenship? Seriously, I'm just curious. Seems to me, you'd be happier living somewhere else.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/10/09 at 8:36

Gdia,

"Of course you don't consider that poll accurate...LOL"

And of course you consider it gospel (oh sorry...um...a reasonable facsimile to gospel?). Like I said, we'll see when the voting happens.

BTW, here's something else I found on Drudge...not looking too good for this bill to pass, unless Pelosi can twist a few arms, I'd imagine.

WHIP COUNT: DEMS LACK THE VOTES
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashwc.htm