Letters to the Editor

Monday, September 14, 2009 at 12:04am


No shirt off their backs

Upon release from prison, the Lockerbie bomber of Pam Am flight 103 is applauded by Libyans, given a hero’s welcome, and Omar Qaddafi himself hugs and kisses him.

He only killed 270 Americans.

Now, the President Bush “shoe thrower” is let out of jail early and given ‘gifts’ by the Iranian government. He didn't kill G.W. Bush, just humiliated him.

When will the United States wake up and realize many parts of the world hate us? Why spend over a trillion dollars and seven years and 4,350 lives "freeing the Iraqi people" when their elections are bogus?

And 54 soldiers were killed in Afghanistan in August alone.

This just isn't worth the time, energy and lives to save these people who wouldn't give you the shirt off their backs.

Paul D'Argent, 37209

Send comments via e-mail to letters@nashvillecitypaper.com


157 Comments on this post:

By: Funditto on 9/14/09 at 6:16

Here's a great place for all you naysayers to put your money where your mouth is regarding health care reform:


By: house_of_pain on 9/14/09 at 6:26

I agree, d7.

By: Kosh III on 9/14/09 at 6:26

200 years of Imperialism will produce this hatred.

By: Kosh III on 9/14/09 at 6:30


For those of you who are so zealous to protect "marriage."

By: dargent7 on 9/14/09 at 6:31

You guy's are sure sleeping in late this AM. I remember when the 1st posts and insults started at 3:00am.

By: sidneyames on 9/14/09 at 6:58

D7, you are right - some people in some places hate us. BUT some people in those same places respect us and want our help. It's hard to turn our backs on them. The Lockerbie guy is dying from a horrendous death. Hmmmmm. Poetic justice? Possibly. Not my call. But from my perspective, he's getting what he deserved. A hero? Not to us, but to those of like mind, yes.

By: house_of_pain on 9/14/09 at 6:59

d7, you'll be happy to know I picked your boys to beat Notre Dame in last week's
"I Beat Biddle" contest. Did you watch the game?

By: slacker on 9/14/09 at 7:15

Hey pain, how high do you expect Jonathan Crompton, to go in the draft?

By: house_of_pain on 9/14/09 at 7:34

Not sure just yet. Definitely somewhere in the first 7 rounds.

By: pandabear on 9/14/09 at 7:40

Ok D7, I know you're looking forward to this, so here it is:

You're ugly.

...oh, and I agree with you about the uselessness of
all the young lives we've lost over there 'cause that's what
saddens me the most.

I hate the greed and pure stupidity of the last president
who took advantage of one thing to go after the other.
To bad the misguided voted for him to continue. We'll be paying
for that mistake for decades.

By: dargent7 on 9/14/09 at 7:58

"House" I think I need to hire an interpreter. I cannot tell if "Panda" is joking, insulting me, a man, or a woman.
Anyway...as we all know, the Notre Dame football team and fans are all fags,...their game dance and all.
I watched the USC/ Ohio State game with more passion.
But, how about them Lions? 0-1, and the schedule just started....w/ a 21 year old QB. Remember what YOU were doing at 21? I'd say it's a safe bet it wasn't throwing a ball in front of 60,000 people.

By: Funditto on 9/14/09 at 8:35


By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/14/09 at 8:36

how's the rookie, Fun?

By: house_of_pain on 9/14/09 at 8:43

A fly has taken Fun's keyboard hostage.

By: house_of_pain on 9/14/09 at 8:48

Blanket, do you think you could convince a judge that all religions interfere with
your religious beliefs?

By: nalafoster on 9/14/09 at 8:48

"When will the United States wake up and realize many parts of the world hate us? "

When will many parts of the world wake up and realize the United States doesn't care one bit if they hate us?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/14/09 at 9:03

nope, house. it'd never happen.

By: dargent7 on 9/14/09 at 9:11

Nala: Great...then we'll just continue to invade, bomb, occupy all these Nations w/o their explicit consent. And, then throw billions at them, help elect puppet gov't's, and they all laugh behind our backs. Return on investment? Nada.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/14/09 at 10:32

Question for those of you who advocate the healthcare bill -

Why not scrap this bill and expand the parameters for allowing individuals on Medicaid to cover those who are not covered by healthcare? This would save the cost of a new bureaucracy as the old one is still in place and would only require supplementation, it would save on the cost of the creation and implementation of a new computer system for a new system as the old one is in place and is in use - only additional security and upgrade need be done, and finally, it would ensure those who are worried about the revisions of a new healthcare system that the system as is for those who pay for theirs now would remain in place. Further, the system already being in place, it would prevent the upheaval of the medical profession having to change their computer systems.

By: pandabear on 9/14/09 at 10:48

D7: joking :)

By: Kosh III on 9/14/09 at 10:48

Chief, it sounds like you are advocating single-payer with Medicaid (or Medicare) as the method.
Works for me. HR-676. Single-payer should be cost effective, economies of scale, saving money. Isn't that what the GOP care about? money?

By: pandabear on 9/14/09 at 10:51

Here's the plan I like:

Robin Williams' plan...(Hard to argue with this logic!)

I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace.

So, here's one plan:

1) The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs, past & present. We will promise never to "interfere" again.

2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No more sneaking through holes in the fence.

3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. France would welcome them.

4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 day visits unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself; don't hide here. Asylum would not ever be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers.

5) No "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, or they get a "D" and it's back home, baby.

6) The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing non polluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.

7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else.

8) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not "interfere". They can pray to Allah,or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides, most of what we give them gets "lost" or is taken by their army. The people who need it most get very little, anyway.

9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an island some place. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, it would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

9b) Use the buildings as replacement for the twin towers.

10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer.

Now, isn't this a winner of a plan?

"The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses.'

She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'You want a piece of me?' "

-- Robin

By: Dragon on 9/14/09 at 10:54

Chief, I believe the reason is that Medicare/Medicaid is broke (paying more than it collects). The huge healthcare reform effort will bury the problem by cranking up the revenues.

BTW, Obama says he can "save" $600 billion in Medicare/Medicaid, to be used to fund his reform. Doesn't that mean that our FICA taxes, which fund Medicare/Medicaid, will be redirected? I'm surprised the Congress hasn't yet proposed increasing FICA taxes.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/14/09 at 10:57

Dragon, he'll save because there will no longer be subsidies paid to the insurance companies who administer Medicare/Medicaid.

By: pandabear on 9/14/09 at 10:58

I believe they've been redirecting revenue from FICA,
just like they've been doing with Social Security, so what's the dif ?

The thieves are going to take what they take until they are forced
to go out of business.

Read: revolution

By: Dragon on 9/14/09 at 10:58

Is it legal to take FICA taxes out of the Medicare system?

By: pandabear on 9/14/09 at 11:00

If Blanket's right, then that's a good thing.

Blanket, have you seen a good info source on this healthcare stuff ?
Something without drama (Ta daaaaa...)

By: pandabear on 9/14/09 at 11:01

Is it legal to invade a country that doesn't have weapons of mass destruction ?

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/14/09 at 11:02


"Chief, it sounds like you are advocating single-payer with Medicaid (or Medicare) as the method.
Works for me. HR-676. Single-payer should be cost effective, economies of scale, saving money. Isn't that what the GOP care about? money?"

Not exactly Kosh. See, if you hit a certain amount of income, you fall off the system and will be able to purchase your own insurance or have a job to do same.

At least this has a better chance of passing that what they have now...but then I seriously doubt Pelosi will allow it to come up. I personally believe this refusal to negotiate with others will be the Democrats undoing in the next election.

By: pandabear on 9/14/09 at 11:03

Is it legal to not give requested aid to a state just because they didn't vote for you ?

Read: California vs. Bush/Enron

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/14/09 at 11:03

panda, let me find one for you.

By: Dragon on 9/14/09 at 11:03

Is it legal to commit purgery when testifying while being sued for sexual harassment?

By: pandabear on 9/14/09 at 11:04

...and you thought Madoff was bad...

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/14/09 at 11:05

BTW, I believe Obama would gain FAR more traction if he were able to find and eliminate the Medicaid/Medicare waste BEFORE pushing for this bill.

Frankly, I doubt anything will pass period.

By: pandabear on 9/14/09 at 11:05

Ok Dragon, I'm bite.

How many people died 'cause Bill couldn't keep his pants on ?

By: pandabear on 9/14/09 at 11:05

Thanks Blanket

By: Dragon on 9/14/09 at 11:06

Back to point - Obama wants to use Medicare "savings" to fund his reform. Since that involves the same FICA revenues, it WOULD be simpler and cheaper to expand Medicare rather than invent a new government health insurance business.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/14/09 at 11:06


Here, Panda. this one is pretty good.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/14/09 at 11:08

The Medicare Modernization Act of 2003 provided substantial subsidies to private "Medicare Advantage" plans. These subsidies have led to an extraordinary proliferation of private plans. The subsidies to private plans amount to over $10 billion annually.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/14/09 at 11:08


Then why not fix the Medicaid/Medicare system and then put those who don't have medical insurance on it until such time as they exceed the financial parameters required to be on it?

Seems to me to be an easier and much more efficient method of taking care of the problem than the circus they're going thru now. Besides, that way, no one will have the insurance they already have messed with.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/14/09 at 11:09

The Congressional Budget Office estimates that equalizing the payment policies for Medicare Advantage plans with those for traditional Medicare would save Medicare at least $150 billion over the next nine years. The average payment to private plans is 13% more than payments to traditional Medicare, thus it is clear that such payments do not save the Medicare program money.

By: Dragon on 9/14/09 at 11:20

Blanket, what is the difference between Medicare Advantage and the proposed (subsidized) public option?

Not much. Not much at all.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/14/09 at 11:20

The simple fact is, this bill, as is, will not pass the Congress. As such, I believe an alternative needs to be drafted by the Democrats soon or they risk the issue being removed from the table.

And if THAT happens, then the Democrats lose all credibility with their constituents and will in fact, lose their majority in both houses of Congress in the next elections, IMO. Further, Obama will also lose all credibility with his base and will have an extremely difficult time passing anything during the remaining time in office.

This, with apologies to the Great and Powerful Slackerdamus, is my prediction.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/14/09 at 11:27

Wow. Looks like only the Wall Street Journel and Fox News have the public confidence more than not.

Press Accuracy Rating Hits Two Decade Low
Public Evaluations of the News Media: 1985-2009


By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/14/09 at 11:27

Dragon, how on earth do you figure that?!

By: Dragon on 9/14/09 at 11:35


Medicare Part C pays private insurance companies for medicare beneficiaries expanded coverage. The "public option" would pay insurance companies for the poor and uninsured. Both are heavily regulated on the benefits that are paid and both would be finance with FICA taxes.

The big difference is that the new, public option would have a tremendously larger population that qualifies for the new, government funding.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/14/09 at 11:36

It needs to be a single payor system.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 9/14/09 at 11:38

a single payor system would do away with the subsidies paid to insurance companies for processing Medicare/Medicaid. that is where the savings to pay for it would come into play.

By: dargent7 on 9/14/09 at 11:38

I think "House" has it nailed. This "posting" board/ forum, I mean.
Strike early, make a couple of disparaging comments about the blind, crippled, and people with cerebal palsey. Get out quick. Maybe fire off one more about deaf people or people with MS. Down Syndrome is fair game.
Last Friday was a joke (9/11).
I brought up The Titans (season opener) the night before, and NOTHING. Nada.
I brought up the 8th anniversary of 9/11, ON FRIDAY, not ONE comment.
But, whether Mary Ann's or Ginger's tits were the biggest or was Spock hung bigger than Kirk brought on a 5 page diatrabe.
And to think, the south has a reputation for ignorance. Where'd anyone get that idea?

By: Funditto on 9/14/09 at 11:40

Kanye is a b@st@rd.

Obama just needs to say "Medicare" for all. People do not understand what he is proposing. He is using big words and Americans don't like big words.

My rookie hasn't been around ;.( I miss him.