Letters to the Editor

Monday, April 26, 2010 at 10:45pm

Editor,

Excellent article in The City Paper, "Bar the Door." If accurate, almost unbelievable, to say the least.

Bar and nightclub "security" and bouncers randomly picking people up and physically throwing them out of the clubs seems exaggerated.

Then attacking them on the street without cause or provocation? Since I'm usually in bed by 10:00pm I haven't witnessed any trouble, especially at 2 a.m. "Last call" at 2 a.m. was always a rough time if my memory serves me correctly. Everyone is drunk and tired and become belligerent when the bar closes.

Unless these bars and clubs in question hire a bunch of apes from the zoo, they'll be sued blind and loose their liquor licenses.

Then passing a brilliant, comprehensive strategy, "Guns-N-Bars" legislation will only fuel the fire. If Nashville wishes to capture more of the tourist dollar and convention business, they'd better think long and hard of allowing loaded weapons into any place that serves alcohol.

Paul D'Argent
37209

Filed under: City Voices

223 Comments on this post:

By: brrrrk on 4/27/10 at 4:41

It appears the martyr returns....

By: Captain Nemo on 4/27/10 at 4:42

Say good night bfra.

By: budlight on 4/27/10 at 4:44

By: bfra on 4/27/10 at 4:36
Fun - Never mind that sidiot has posted on here nth number of times about she has to clean the house before hubby gets home. Just more bs or there is no housekeeper.

So bfra, you're saying that if I clean my own house, I can't hire a house keeper occasionally? I didn't say I have one on a regular basis.

Yes, I clean house. Yes, I Hire a housekeeper on occasion.

Yes my husband mows 4.65 acres with his Great Dane 0-turn mower; when it's broken down, we hire Ground FX to mow. They charge $120 for 5 acres.

You all are such doubting Thomas's. I guess when you lie a lot, you have to accuse others of lying. So have a nice night.

Worked from 8 to 4 and now have to clean house before hubby gets home!

By: budlight on 4/27/10 at 4:45

By: Blanketnazi2 on 4/27/10 at 9:01
By: Loner on 4/27/10 at 8:47
Bn, I am drinking half Costa Rican Tarrazo and half Mexican Organic Pluma, with cream and sugar.

sounds good. however, i like my coffee like i like my men - strong and black. LOL!

Blanket, cream and sugar? Sounds a little beige or tan. Strong and black would be sans cream & sugar, wouldn't it?

By: budlight on 4/27/10 at 4:47

brrrrk on 4/27/10 at 4:41
It appears the martyr returns....

Martyr? I think you meant "smarter".

By: bfra on 4/27/10 at 4:48

If you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory. I was only teasing or can't you take a joke, doesn't cut it!

By: budlight on 4/27/10 at 4:49

budlight on 4/26/10 at 4:56
Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.
-Eleanor Roosevelt

D7, you don't have my permission!

By: bfra on 4/27/10 at 4:50

Nemo - Constant contradictions of her own posts, from the same idiot, over & over, just really rile me.

By: Captain Nemo on 4/27/10 at 4:52

What did we talk about bfra. She spend so much energy posting and you don't have to spend anyenergy on readying her whiney crap.

By: house_of_pain on 4/27/10 at 4:53

...and says he wants to tie one on...

By: Captain Nemo on 4/27/10 at 4:57

She knows that bfra. That is why she does it. It empowers her to think she can bully you on line. e has gone home and whine to itself.

By: bfra on 4/27/10 at 4:58

Nemo - I know this is only a comment board, but what is the point of making up something to post as "fact", if you don't even have enough sense to remember what you posted more that 2 seconds?

Then when called, "I was only teasing" or "that was a joke".

Suggestion remembered, will try again to comply! LOL

By: Captain Nemo on 4/27/10 at 5:04

bfra you can't believe a thing that nut says. So don't bother to read it. She has no life.

By: brrrrk on 4/27/10 at 5:07

budlight said

"Martyr? I think you meant 'smarter'."

No..... No..... Definitely not smarter. Now, what rhymes with duck?

By: Captain Nemo on 4/27/10 at 5:08

Bfra, I am sure you will have to remind me at some point.

By: bfra on 4/27/10 at 5:08

Ditto on that Nemo!

By: bfra on 4/27/10 at 5:11

brrrrk - I know! I know! Is it followed with you? LOL

By: Captain Nemo on 4/27/10 at 5:12

brrrk read what bfra and I have been talking about.

Now good night folks and don't let the bed bud bite. lol

By: bfra on 4/27/10 at 5:14

Have a good evening Nemo - your links are both funny & informative.

By: budlight on 4/27/10 at 6:00

bfra on 4/27/10 at 8:18
By: dargent7 on 4/27/10 at 7:35
Sidiot: Your numerous inane posts are not "satire" and "jokes". You ARE that dumb, get called on it, and then re-think, re-group, and only then realize how stupid you were.
You fool no one, "budlight". Sorry, the truth stings.
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That one wouldn't know truth, logic or the difference between fact or fiction, if it hit her in the arse. She would just drop & roll and think it funny.

I Feel so honored to have been judged by those of you who are so pure. PURE CRAP. and that's no joke.

The think about Steve was just joking. BUT this -- you're pure crap -- D-zero and bfra (being fricking rotten arse) is not a joke.

By: Loner on 4/27/10 at 7:46

LOL, House.

By: budlight on 4/28/10 at 7:35

Then when called, "I was only teasing" or "that was a joke".

Looks like Jay Leno was thinking "illegals" also. He is smarter than D7. AND richer than most on this post.

So, Steve might have been talking ill-eagle aliens -- not ET's.

By: thorninyourside79 on 4/28/10 at 7:46

In reference to the article “Bar the door” by James Nix; which views Downtown Nashville’s club security personnel as nothing more than thugs wanting to hurt people; I must simply say Mr. Nix, do you really have any idea what you are talking about? As a professional in the security industry I am contracted downtown every weekend to provide security for patrons and establishments and I am generally offended by your lack of insight and judgmental bias towards those in this field of work. You obviously lacked the interest to do a thorough investigation and develop research for your story. It appears that you went directly off the stories from victims who as you even state your self, “were arrested and sent to jail”. Now please explain to me how security was in the wrong if these individuals ended up being sent to jail by metro police department?
I freely admit there are a few bad apples that use excessive force; and I am as appalled by their behavior as you; however that is not the rule here in Nashville. Any group large enough will have individuals that are bullies or worse... These individuals that do use excessive force should not only be fired for their behavior but have their security licenses taken away and charges pressed against them for assault. Those that have been unjustly assaulted I honestly regret your injury and my heart goes out to you.
However on the flip side of the issue, you, Mr. Nix have no idea what it is like to have to deal with drunken testosterone filled people wanting to fight and cause problems. How many times have you been shot at or had a knife pulled on you by a disorderly individual? How many times have you had to give CPR to an innocent by stander that was assaulted by a drunken disorderly patron? How many times have you had to literally fear for your life in order to protect others? We in the security industry have to take a lot of punishment verbally, mentally, and physically just to protect people like you and allow you to have a good time out downtown. I can assure you no one would have any problems with security if they would act like adults and behave; and simply follow the laws of the state and the rules POSTED by the establishment. True sometimes we in the security industry have to get down and dirty with unruly patrons; but would you rather we didn’t and allow that patron to smash a beer bottle over your head or grab your wife’s rear end? These individuals are the cause of the violence, NOT security. They are the ones that act up and start problems and when asked to leave; refuse to do so and become violent against security. So in return we have to use assertive tactics based on our experience and the threat level perceived to protect ourselves and patrons such as you, Mr. Nix. Here is another hint, every club and bar has cameras everywhere to record all incidents. These videos are used by us to help enforce prosecution against these unruly patrons that are sent to jail.
Security can be a stressful and VERY dangerous job that pays very little for a high risk environment with lots of required work and odd hours. People don’t do security to get rich; they do it because they like to protect people (except for the few bad apples).
In reference to your argument about hand guns in bars; I must simply say with out a doubt that it should be NO! I don’t care if you are an off duty police officer, firearms inside bars and clubs is the worst idea ever. Unless you are on duty and working as a properly trained law enforcement or security personnel then you have no business having a firearm in side such establishments. I am fully armed, licensed, certified, and insured through the state when I work at these establishments with a firearm, tazer, baton, and chemical spray; and trust me sometimes you need every bit of it. In my opinion all clubs and bars should have some sort of search prior to entering the premises to make sure patrons are not bringing in weapons. I can’t tell you how many times we have pulled pistols off drunken felons with gang affiliations inside these clubs and the drugs confiscated are countless (even inside the honkey tonks and within yuppie crowds as well). Also there was a statement in your article about it being safer in New Orleans. I work volunteer in New Orleans often for Mardi' gras with law enforcement and all I can say is people need to know what they are talking about before they make comments on something they have no idea about.
All in all I just want to say that your article is not only offensive but down right judgmental. If anything you have only succeeded in hurting industry downtown by giving tourist and patrons a sense of fear of security when really we are the ones that are there to protect you. So thanks for being blindly arrogant of truth, lax in an effort to thoroughly conduct the proper research needed, and for making down town's economy a little bit harder on an industry based on tourism by scaring the tourist. And “The City Paper” itself should be ashamed of such nonsense and publishing anything that will hurt the city’s economy.
And just for your information, your average security officer or bouncer in down town Nashville makes more felony arrests than your average police officer every year.