Letters to the Editor

Tuesday, June 8, 2010 at 11:45pm

Toughest battle is from within

While reading the comments some people make on the issues, it suddenly dawned on me that the ones that are anti-immigration, anti-gay, anti-government, anti-religion, pro-guns-in-bars, anti-women’s right to choose, pro-war, antisocial and any other hateful thing you can imagine, that these are all the same people.

They are a concentrated group of malcontents that may not even know each other but are bound by a common thread of hate and greed.

This seems like a nesting place that breeds homegrown terrorism because of their right wing angst against everything. They are as big a threat to us from inside as an outside Muslim terrorist organization. They disrupt our government and our educational institutions, they break the law with their Tea Party-backed violence and disrespect for their fellow man and quietly advocate racism from within.

To live that kind of miserable life can't be fun. Their whole life's philosophy is rooted in hate for anything or anyone who doesn't share that same hatred.

The Gulf oil spill may not be our biggest threat. It may be a subtle self-serving decay incubating among us.

C.W. Clouse
Nashville 37209

Filed under: City Voices
Tagged: C.W.Clouse

293 Comments on this post:

By: dnewton on 6/9/10 at 2:33

I am anti illegal immigration, anti gay marriage, anti ineffective and improper government, anti-Gorbull Warming religion, pro gun in bars if not actually drinking booze, anti abortion, pro war when it is a matter of survival, and anti social when society is structured to steal from some to give to others on the basis of questionable need. I have been to several tea parties and saw no violence or any advocated.

I don't see how government is disrupted when if seems to increase every year and when cash runs short, borrowed money is used to plug the holes. There is no group of racist more high profile than Leftist. A life philosophy of hate is more obvious in the Bush Haters who water board logic every second of the day to hold up a house of cards type connection to world chaos of any particular kind.

If I am miserable, please associate it with anal retentive nanny government constantly reducing my freedom.

It is possible for any idealist to go to a farm and build the perfect society, off the grid and making all of your cloths out of marijuana. You could manipulate the local economy on the farm and fissure your own currency to make sure everyone gets the same no matter what they do or contribute. Everyone could be wearing the same cloths and eating the same food voluntarily. You could have highly dense settlements and bicycles for everyone. You could plan everything and have all of the credit for bringing order out of chaos. If you Leftist would go off to the woods and rain down stupidity on your own little group and If you Lefties/ Commies, Pinkos, Progressive would just show me how well you do and plan to be a shining example to the rest of us, I would be so happy, you could not slap the smile off of my face.

By: dargent7 on 6/9/10 at 4:45

I have never witnessed the hatred toward Washington as it 's occuring now before in my life.
It HAS to be against Obama getting elected, and it's because he's BLACK.
My experience of GW Bush started off on the wrong foot w/ the Florida fiasco and watching him be handed the election, ie., stolen from Al Gore.
Then, 9/11 happened, and he invades Iraq.
All the people that hate Obama, which is 90% of all Republicans, had NO problem w/ Bush & Co.
It's unbelieveable to me they're giving him a pass, praising his leadership, and to this day believe he was a great President.
Almost as if he was Reagan's son, who they all worship.
They started in on Obama 30 DAYS after Inaguration.
And all deny it's about RACE.

By: bfra on 6/9/10 at 4:58

Well stated d7! It is hard to believe that anyone, in their right mind, could defend the Bush/Cheney fiasco, in any way.

As to the lte., thankfully I am not aware of knowing anyone with all the antis listed.

By: dargent7 on 6/9/10 at 5:10

bfra: Welcome then, "dnewton". He's proud to exemplify all the negative qualities "dooley" itemizes.

By: bfra on 6/9/10 at 5:22

I noticed that. He is one of those, I thankfully don't know.

By: dargent7 on 6/9/10 at 5:22

When I read "dnewton's" post, I couldn't put my finger on it, but he called us Democrats "leftist, Commie, Pinko, marijuana smoking ...." Then it came to me: Archie Bunker!

By: bfra on 6/9/10 at 5:23

But Archie was only play acting, this one seems for real.

By: bfra on 6/9/10 at 5:25

d7 - I still get amazed at people thinking Obama can correct 8 yrs of brain dead decisions, in such a short time.

By: dargent7 on 6/9/10 at 5:49

bfra: You'd be suprised, no shocked, how many right here in Tenn. miss GW Bush.
Seems like an impossibility, but they think he did everything right. Especially Iraq.

By: Kosh III on 6/9/10 at 5:55

"nanny government constantly reducing my freedom. "

What freedoms? YOU are the destroyer of freedom. YOU advocate "I am...anti gay...." You promote STEALING the liberty of gay citizens.
Hypocrite!

By: Dragon on 6/9/10 at 6:06

I thought anti-religion was characteristic of the radical left wing liberal secularists. Conservatives support the freedoms in our Constitution, including the freedom of religion.

Now I have to change my business cards again.

By: Kosh III on 6/9/10 at 6:20

Change them Drag because there are plenty of progressive Christians, they are not noticed because they're too busy feeding the hungry, tending the sick, you know doing all those Jesus things that the conservatives can't do because they're too busy bashing gays and trying to turn the clock back to 1860.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 6:24

Good morning

Sunrise Gulf of Mexico
http://www.nps.gov/pais/planyourvisit/images/sea_oats_&_sunset-285.jpg

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 6:25

Good letter dooley and dnewton post make the point for you. The drool of his hate filled rant speaks volumes of the abhorrence the fringe right boast without in shame or remorse.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 6:28

dnewton thinking
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/35725803_c3e89f2b4a.jpg

By: bfra on 6/9/10 at 6:33

dnewton thinking
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/35725803_c3e89f2b4a.jpg

Double LOL Nemo!

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 6:33

Dragon does not the deference between religion and the hate propaganda he spews.

By: bfra on 6/9/10 at 6:36

Nemo - Was in Pensacola over the weekend - sunrises are beautiful, but the beach is in a terrible mess.

By: conservarage on 6/9/10 at 6:42

progressive rule #1 - defend people's right to free speech and to have their own opinion - unless it differs from the progressive ideals. then condem it as hateful, ignorant, etc etc.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 6:46

bfra- I have been to New Orleans 3 times, Florida 6 times and even fly over it once, but I have never seen the Gulf of Mexico. I was hoping to go at some point soon, but what will I see? I may not go at all now, because it may not be the beautiful place I have heard about all my life.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 6:51

That is right conserarage. Just like the time I question Bush’s reason for going into Iraq and have someone like you call me a trader.

By: Kosh III on 6/9/10 at 6:52

Free speech includes calling "kill a queer for Christ" an ignorant hateful statement.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 6:55

Here is another example of the right wing "defend people's right to free speech and to have their own opinion "

Dixie Chicks - Dixie Chicks Star's Life Threatened After Anti-Bush Comment
http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/story/dixie-chicks-stars-life-threatened-after-anti-bush-comment_24_05_2006

By: bfra on 6/9/10 at 6:57

I have traveled from St. Pete, FL (costal) thru New Orleans to Galveston, TX and it is all very interesting and was beautiful. With what I saw on the beach in Pensacola, the parts where the oil is coming in, would be a sad section. Humans, animals & fowl will all be effected in some way. It is truly sad.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 6:58

Kosh- Don’t you just the way right wings think they have the rights to call what is God’s way. lol

By: Kosh III on 6/9/10 at 6:59

Nemo
Yes, the Gulf is dying, it may be centuries before it is healed, if at all. I don't think most people realize how bad this is. The oil is already well into the Gulf Stream approaching Europe and will eventually poison all the oceans.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 6:59

bfra- The sad thing is that the worst is yet to come.

By: bfra on 6/9/10 at 7:01

Nemo - Along the Louisiana bayou section, you can travel miles and see nothing but armadillos, alligators, oil refineries and from time to time the ocean.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 7:06

And that worries me, Kosh. What will it do to the Gulf Stream, could it cause the Glazier in Greenland to melt faster? Sending an onslaught of cold fresh water into the stream causing it to stop?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 7:11

bfra- I have driven the shoreline of t Lakes Huron and Ontario. It was my hopes to something like that on the Gulf. I was thinking that this might be my year to do it. But now I will have to wait and see.

By: bfra on 6/9/10 at 7:14

Nemo that sounds like a nice trip. Guess I am a warm weather person, I tend to go West & South.

By: house_of_pain on 6/9/10 at 7:15

You go both ways?

By: bfra on 6/9/10 at 7:16

LOL house - usually not at the same time.

By: dargent7 on 6/9/10 at 7:18

I'd advise all posters to get this week's issue of Newsweek.
"What the Spill Will Kill".
The article points out all the "spills" since the Exxon Valdez: 10.9 million gallons.
BP's Deepwater Horizon could reach 39-94 million gallons by August.
The Gulf War 1991 that "Daddy" Bush started had the Iraqi's "turn on the valve" spilling 252-336 million gallons as they retreated from Kuwait.
And Bush, Cheney & Co. say the war in Iraq has nothing to do w/ OIL?

By: dargent7 on 6/9/10 at 7:20

bfra: Then you must love the Brilley Parkway. Only road I've ever driven where South goes East, and then West, before North. After 20 minutes I don't know WTF direction I am pointing.
And Downtowns were always South...here it's East? I still don't know.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 7:22

http://www.nwprogressive.org/weblog/uploaded_images/centlink/JUL09LinkLookBothWays.jpg

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 7:23

Let see if this works
http://images.travelpod.com/users/goodrichodyssey/3.1240253460.looking-both-ways.jpg

By: Kosh III on 6/9/10 at 7:26

dar
And try to figure out which Old Hickory Blvd you want to be on is even worse than Briley.
That is one of my pet peeves about this city, the lack of good navigational road signs.
I guess I was spoiled in San Diego. The street signs told you what block you were on, the freeway exit signs listed the upcoming exits, if there was to be a road closure, a sign went up months ahead of time warning drivers.

By: bfra on 6/9/10 at 7:29

Unless they have corrected it, one curve on Briley Pky, headed toward Gal. Rd. just past Opryland hotel is not banked correctly. Might be others, but that one is way off.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/9/10 at 7:32

good LTE!

By: BenDover on 6/9/10 at 7:36

Dooley simply has no understanding whatsoever of his foes. This is the most uninformed, rash and sterotypical condemnation of conservatism I've seen since Bill Mahr visited the Dailey show.

Darge, your constant charges of racism are equally blinded by unfounded predisposition.

There is a saying... know your enemy. It is obvious by this commentary that the libs are clueless about conservatism or simply malicious in the way they malign their fellow citizens.

If you can't debate the issues attack the person, I guess. More people are waking up to this strategy, though, as they become more informed about the conservative positions and fiind themselves in the crosshairs.

By: govskeptic on 6/9/10 at 7:36

Let me get this straight: So those that support open borders,
marriage by any parties requesting same, military service by
anyone over age 18, and a free chicken or two in every pot are
the "enlightened ones"? Those who are opposed to any one or
more of these values/programs are the hate filled "uneducated"
portion of the population that needs to be "informed" by the
media and educational system. The LTE is correct, the latter
must be marked with a hugh X on their foreheads since they
so often looks like you and I.

By: dargent7 on 6/9/10 at 7:40

That's what's so great about Hawai'i. It's a circle and you either see the ocean or the mountain range. Stevie Wonder could get around there fairly well.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/9/10 at 7:42

I think called you a liar Blanket. lol

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/9/10 at 7:45

lol, Nemo! i guess he'll put me in the "crosshairs."

By: Kosh III on 6/9/10 at 7:46

Really Ben? What is the position? How do conservatives support the freedom of gay people to marry? How do they support the right of a person to control their own body? How do they support the right of the Dixie Chicks to exercise free speech?

The right engages in character assassination all the time: Feminazi, Hitlery, surrender monkeys etc etc

Is "kill a Queer for Christ" a Christian or Republican value?

By: AmyLiorate on 6/9/10 at 7:54

Good morning all, looks like we're out of the gate and running fast this wet Wednesday morning!

Clouse, WOW - you've painted with the broadest brush possible! Just lump everything you don't agree with into a singular group and anyone who believes any of it is the same as everyone else?

By: budlight on 6/9/10 at 7:54

"anti-immigration"

Clouse, normally you come across pretty well. But for the life of me, I can't figure out why you (and others) can't figure this out:

THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE FOLLOWING: "Anti-ILLEGAL Immigration and just plain old by the book, follow the rules and law IMMIGRATION.

If you don't know the difference, ask a LEGAL IMMIGRANT. You know. One who filled out papers, stood in line, paid their dues, waited their turn and did not break a a law in coming to the U.S.

Then ask a guy who snuck in under the dark of night who is always hiding and runnning from the law.

NO ONE hates IMMIGRATION. Only illegal immigration. Comprende'?

By: dargent7 on 6/9/10 at 7:56

BenD: Racism is the ONLY plausible and possible explaination for your (90% Republicans) vitrolic hatred of President Obama.
You are the one that's blind to not only your own "race predispositions", but reality as well.

By: budlight on 6/9/10 at 8:00

And all deny it's about RACE. said by D7.

D7, not with everyone. POLICY is something that we look for and listen to. I don't like his policies, especially those that lend themselves to the following quote:

"Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday." --Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist Saul Alinsky

Because you agree with Obama and I do not, that does make me a racist. After all, he is 1/2 black; 1/2 white, so I could say he's mutant!