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Wednesday, February 2, 2011 at 9:05pm

As other states have demonstrated, having wine in grocery stores increases sales tax revenues and enhances employment without the doomsday predictions coming to pass by those opposed to responsible enjoyment of wines and other alcoholic beverages. This odd pairing of morality-dictating churches and the liquor store lobby is about one of two things — either controlling people's lifestyles or stifling competition to fatten profits for a few businesses (instead of allowing many businesses to compete for profits).

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80 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 2/3/11 at 6:35

Amen.

By: house_of_pain on 2/3/11 at 6:51

Hallelujah.

By: dargent7 on 2/3/11 at 7:12

God Save the Queen.

By: dargent7 on 2/3/11 at 7:17

I vote for "promos" as "Poster of the Year". Hey, when's the CP's Annual banquet this year? Is it being held at the Taco Bell's Drive-thru window like last year?

By: Loner on 2/3/11 at 7:48

Poster of the year? I'm not so sure about that, Darge....there have been some good ones in 2011.

I do admire this post. The author identifies the good reason faction and the real reason faction. It is rare to see such open collusion between these two interest groups. Usually, the good reason faction gets the publicity, while the real reason faction quietly bankrolls their mutually beneficial efforts.

NCP springs for Pizza for Posters, at Papa John's?......that would be good.

By: gdiafante on 2/3/11 at 7:48

I second that emotion.

By: gdiafante on 2/3/11 at 8:06

I've seen displays at Publix about this topic. There's a website you can go and donate or sign a petition, but I can't remember what it is.

By: dargent7 on 2/3/11 at 8:14

I remember the good old days when my 16 year old cousin and I had someone buy us Boone's Farm at Woolworth's in Detroit. ( legal age dropped from 21 to 18 for about two years). 13 & Woodward. Gas was 0.19cents a gallon at the Shell station.
We'd drink it and race cars.
Yes, my intellect was apparent even then.

By: dargent7 on 2/3/11 at 8:21

This cyclone in Australia, Yasi, is 285 meters an hour. What's that in mph? Sounds awfully fast.
Where's our resident scientific translater, 'House"?

By: house_of_pain on 2/3/11 at 8:28

gd, the group is Red, White, & Food.

You guys have a good weekend. I'm going to AR for a funeral.
Later.

By: govskeptic on 2/3/11 at 8:33

Long overdue change, Liquor lobby especially at wholesale
level has controlled this product for 50+ yrs in Tenn. with the
big wallet of lobbist "Golden Goose" Hensley. Maybe
Piggly Wiggly will bring back my brand-Thunderbird!

By: dargent7 on 2/3/11 at 8:47

The grocery stores always carry the lower priced brands...Almaden, Gallo.
The liquor stores carry those, but 80% is of a higher quality...Kendal-Jackson, Beringer, Rodney Strong, Louie Martini.
In California and Hawai'i, those wines sell for $10.99, on Sale.
In Tenn., they're $12.99- $18.00, never on Sale. Grocery stores would bring the price DOWN.
Something's very wrong here in Nashville.

By: BenDover on 2/3/11 at 9:16

Let the liquor stores sell cigarettes, beer, softdrinks, mixers and anything else they want and then let the grocery stores carry wine. Big win in convienence for the consumers and nobody takes a major hit.

By: BenDover on 2/3/11 at 9:19

Give it up darge... we already know you're a Mogen David guy. I'd think you'd be more after the, uhhh, affordable wine in the 7/11s.

By: gdiafante on 2/3/11 at 9:23

No, let liquor stores sell guns. Then you make two bloated, corrupt, out of touch lobbies happy at the same time.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 9:29

Good morning
http://www.sanibel-island-photos.com/images/DSC00931a.jpg

I thought this would be where everyone would gravitate to.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 9:37

1 metre = SI units
100 cm 1000 mm
US customary / Imperial units
3.2808 ft 39.370 in

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 9:43

From yesterday

By: brrrrk on 2/2/11 at 1:43
Well....

Turns out the John Boehner may have been pronouncing his name incorrectly after all. Up until now we've all been told that the pronunciation of his last name is bay-ner. Now, the National Inquirer (who, for what it's worth generally has the goods) has stated that they are about to release pictures and names of two lobbyists that Boehner has been.... well... "boning". LOL.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/07/john-boehner-links-lobbyists-washington

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 9:50

It appears that Ben was showing off his at science skills yesterday. Ever since he won the 5th grade Science Fair he has had the big head. ; - )

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 9:56

That would be a good idea gdia. Walk into a liquor store, buy a gun and then hold it up to pay for it.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 10:06

Now back to the subject. Selling wine at the grocery store would save an extra step for the consumer. However I don’t think it is the end of our neighborhood depot of the spirits, because they have a much larger selection of both wine and spirits.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 10:08

How are you doing in the northland Loner?

By: gdiafante on 2/3/11 at 10:10

Nemo, they sell wine and liquor in the groceries in Iowa. They also have thriving liquor stores. Go figure.

Now in parts of PA, they don't sell beer in groceries, you have to go to a package store. You can buy a six pack in a bar, but anything over that is only at the package store. At least that's the way it used to be, haven't been there in over a year or so.

By: dargent7 on 2/3/11 at 10:23

It's pronounced "bon-er". He's trying to distance himself form the obvious "p*enis" inflection. And quite unsuccessful at that.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 10:44

Well no matter how you pronounce it, John maybe a JOHN. lol

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 10:45

It will be interesting to see where this thread goes. See you later folks.

By: yogiman on 2/3/11 at 11:06

I don't believe they want drunks buying their wine at a store next to a church... and they don't want their "in housers" going straight to the wine store after church.

By: AmyLiorate on 2/3/11 at 12:22

I'll drink to that!

By: AmyLiorate on 2/3/11 at 12:26

Yep, GD, I was in PA a year ago. Only non-alcohol beer is in the grocery. We had to go to a special store several miles away and buy a 12pack from what looked like a warehouse.

So much for the consumer.

By: bfra on 2/3/11 at 12:33

The same "selling alcoholic drinks" laws would apply, so how could they buy wine at a store next to a Church?

By: gdiafante on 2/3/11 at 1:32

That's another stupid law.

By: brrrrk on 2/3/11 at 2:27

Frankly I don't have a problem with the liquor laws in this state.... but then again, intoxication isn't something that's high on my list. In my opinion, if you can't wait till you get home for a "cold one", you've got bigger problems.

By: gdiafante on 2/3/11 at 2:42

Brrrrk, no one's asking for the ability to consume an alcoholic drink at a grocery, just the ability to buy wine.

By: gdiafante on 2/3/11 at 2:46

And as far as the proximity to church mess...I remember people freaking out when they built the arena...because it was so close to the Baptist Church.

But the world didn't end...

By: BenDover on 2/3/11 at 2:48

Any grocery store that sells beer now would presumably be able to sell wine too under the distance rules so I don't think that makes much difference, bfra.

The only thing that should not be as inexpensive, convenient and efficient as possible in our society is the arrest, prosecution and incarceration of its people, brrrrk.

By: dargent7 on 2/3/11 at 3:42

In most major inner cities, liquor stores are also CASH YOUR CHEK HERE stores, and they are located on the same block as the Welfare/ FoodStamp office. Marketing genius?
Gee, I wonder.
Kroger, Harris Teeter, and Publix should be able to sell wine next to the Sam Adams.

By: bfra on 2/3/11 at 3:42

Ben, my response was for the following:
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By: yogiman on 2/3/11 at 10:06
I don't believe they want drunks buying their wine at a store next to a church...
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Again, No it wouldn't make any difference!

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 3:52

This has not brought about the interested I thought it would.

By: AmyLiorate on 2/3/11 at 4:00

Anyone have more thoughts on Egypt?

About a week ago Southern Sudan voted 99% for independence from the rest of Sudan. I thought to myself that must be strange, 99% of any large group never agrees on anything. I checked the numbers and it was like 3.7 million votes to 16,000.

Wow, that's unity!

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 4:03

yogi-

You can’t buy beer, wine or liquor on Sunday until after 1PM. I don’t think that wine or liquor on Sunday at all.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 4:08

What take place in Egypt will be of most interest for the world. I am thinking that some in Israel now wish they had settle the separate state plan with the Palestine

By: bfra on 2/3/11 at 4:13

Nemo - At one time you could by beer at a mkt. on Thompson Ln. any time on Sun.. They are in Oakhill and not governed by Metro. Don't know if that is still true or not.

By: AmyLiorate on 2/3/11 at 4:16

Yeah, there are a couple of neocons I catch on the radio every once in a while. They both happen to be Jewish.

I usually don't agree with much of anything one of them says, but in the last few days I've heard them both taking a side on this issue and it isn't one of concern that the 80M people be freer.

This picture really says a lot.
http://cmsimg.tennessean.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=DN&Date=20110203&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=102030342&Ref=H3&MaxW=300&Border=0

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 4:22

Thanks bfra. I was just going by what I thought was Metro beer law. I forgot about the satellite cities.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 4:28

Amy I could not retrieve that link.

By: AmyLiorate on 2/3/11 at 4:35

? I dunno Nemo, it worked for me.

It shows the presidents of Egypt and US side by side.

Mubarak:Reagan
Mubarak:Bush 41
Mubarak:Clinton
Mubarak:Bush 43
Mubarak:Obama

Very effective. Especially when you consider that 3 of them served 8 years.

By: brrrrk on 2/3/11 at 4:39

Can you actually believe that some on the right (Huckabee comes to mind ) are defending Mubarak and his government thugs? How sad is that?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 4:49

Amy-

He kept the peace with Israel for 30 years and the close time that a peace treaty might have been sign with the Palestinians was with Clinton, but Yesser Arafat said no for political reason. However 15 yrs has gone by, in which Israel could have made a deal. It maybe too late now.

By: bfra on 2/3/11 at 4:50

Roethlisberger walked into a Piano Bar Tuesday nite, requested a Billy Joel song & the media went wild! No joke house.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/11 at 4:54

Yes I can bfra. The far right religious well side with Mubarak, because he is something they know. Conservatives fear anything new and will cling to the old ways, even if the old ways are wrong. Especially if it is wrong.