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Monday, February 14, 2011 at 10:54pm

"Zero tolerance is a state law, and that won’t change,” [Jesse] Register told The City Paper. “What we’re trying to do is look at appropriate other measures that we can take that help young people and give us alternatives to an automatic yearlong suspension.”

Register did not fracture his tongue while speaking from both sides of mouth.

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By: dargent7 on 2/15/11 at 11:15

I want "yogi", the de facto US Constitutional appelate judicator, to say both parents of a POTUS have to be born in the USA (soil) , as well as the offspring. All three have to be "born in the USA".
If that's the law, tell it. Otherwise, shut TFU!

By: Loner on 2/15/11 at 11:19

Yogi taunts the board: "I would almost be willing to bet the man he (Pres. Obama) claims to be his father would prove not to be by a DNA test."

Not satisfied with the illegal immigrant designation, Yogi calls our President a bastard...that would make Obama a lying bastard...a lying African bastard... in Yogi's view.

I'm confident that Yogi also thinks Obama is a Muslim, posing as a Christian...most of these birthers believe that canard as well.

And everybody knows Obama is a Commie.

Make that a a Lying, African, Muslim, Commie Bastard....correct me, if I'm wrong on that., Yogiman.

By: Loner on 2/15/11 at 11:26

Thanks, Brrrk....you have my permission to use that inflammatory line to ignite a volatile situation in a crowded liquor-bar, filled with Second Amendment Christians.

Just don't use that line in Darge's bar....he might go for his weapon too.

By: Antisocialite on 2/15/11 at 11:38

Jesus, the Christ was OK, it's the Christians who really suck.

Nice paraphrase of the Gandhi quote there Loner. I like the irreverence in your version, but I think I like the original more because it calls out the so-called Christians a bit more directly.

I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

Either way it works ;-)

By: yogiman on 2/15/11 at 11:41

Wrong, dargent7,

I don't care if the person sitting in the President's office is black, white, pink, purple, polka dot or striped. My concern is if he is in there legally. We do have a Constitution this nation is supposed to be led by. When you ignore it one time, you may as well throw it out of your car window driving down the street. If you people can't see what is happening to this nation, I fell sorry for your stupidity. And you're supposed to be educated?

bfra, you don't know what proof is. Of the statements I have made, with all of your other deplorable comments you have to and about me, you apparently have not attempted to look one up to prove I am wrong.

By: Loner on 2/15/11 at 11:41

Fun with Acronyms:

Obama is a LAMB-CHOP.

Translation: Obama is a Lying African Muslim Bastard - Commie Hizbollah One-world Phony.

(ATTN: Homeland Insecurity: I'm just kidding.)

By: gdiafante on 2/15/11 at 11:45

Yogi, the burden of proof is on you to prove he isn't eligible. Just saying he isn't doesn't cut it. Stand up and provide your proof or slither back under your rock.

chop chop

By: dargent7 on 2/15/11 at 11:47

Yogi: Then answer the question.
Yes or No. Does both parents of a POTUS have to be born in the USA?
Yes or No.
I don't give a sh**t if you don't acknowledge that Obama is the POTUS. You gave US Constitutional validity that because his father was Kenyan, he therefore wasn't legally President.
He won the 2008 election. (unlike GW Bush who stole 2000 and rigged 2004).
So, simply answer the question: Does BOTH parents of a US born offspring who runs for President have to be born in the USA? Therefore, ALL THREE?
Yes or No.

By: Loner on 2/15/11 at 11:47

Yes, Anti_Socialite, that was a paraphrase of a Gandhi quote...Perhaps I should have prefaced that remark with, "To paraphrase Mohatmas Gandhi,"

Good catch...my bad.

My intent was good..I was going for pithy and contemporary...the good old vernacular.

By: bfra on 2/15/11 at 11:52

yogi - Do you know what the definition of PROOF is? Oh my, now that's a silly question to ask yogi!

By: Loner on 2/15/11 at 11:54

D'argemt7, counsel is advised not to badger the witness......(think old B&W Perry Mason episodes).......Sustained!

By: revo-lou on 2/15/11 at 12:03

Sorry yogi, but there is no provision in the US Constitution that requires a person’s parents to be born in the US, for that person to be a citizen of this country, provided that they are born in this country. Obama, having been born in Hawaii, is a Natural Born citizen of the US, regardless of who his parents are, or where they were born.

Now, of course, that is not really your dispute, and you try to meld two opinions into one, as if they are relative to each other. You true belief is that Obama was not even born in Hawaii. And you present as proof for that point, hearsay and innuendo comments from unfounded, unproven and disputable web sites.

Does not leave you much wiggle room on your statement that you believe a man to be truthful until proven otherwise.

And this is as nice as I am going to be about it.

By: yogiman on 2/15/11 at 12:14

No, dargent7, both of the man's parents don't have to have been born in the US. They must become American citizens before they have him and HE must be born in the USA to be a natural born citizen. Both parents must be American citizens and the man he claims to be his father is (was) not. You cannot be a natural born citizen with only one American parent. The reason considered? For the fear the person taking the Presidential office would consider too much influence by a foreign nation. I guess that doesn't seem to make any sense to you.

Please allow me to repeat... one more time. He says he was born in 1961 in Hawaii. If he was, in 1961, at her age, his mother, if she was married to his father, could not transfer her American citizenship to him. Just read the damn laws.

By: brrrrk on 2/15/11 at 12:33

Loner said

"Thanks, Brrrk....you have my permission to use that inflammatory line to ignite a volatile situation in a crowded liquor-bar, filled with Second Amendment Christians."

Speaking of the Second Amendment, does anyone else find it ironic that the very same people that insist that we must have absolute gun rights for the purpose of protecting ourselves from an out of control government are the same ones ignoring the fact that the Mubarak regime was brought down peacefully.... by essentially an unarmed group of protesters?

By: yogiman on 2/15/11 at 12:38

revo-lou,

You should read a little bit more about the laws to gain a little bit of knowledge of them. You don't seem to want to accept anyone else knowledge.

I'll repeat to you. His parents did not have to have been born in the US. But, and may I repeat, BUT, they must have become naturalized citizens before they gave birth to him. And simply because he was born in Hawaii, if he was, simply makes him a common citizen. Citizen, yes. Natural born citizen? No. There is a vast difference between a "common citizen", a "naturalized citizen", and a "natural born citizen".

In Barack Obama's/Barry Soetoro's case, if he was in fact born in Hawaii, with a Kenyan father, he would simply be a common citizen. And it's just so simple to learn the difference. Simply read the laws that our founders made for us and learn the reasons why.

Gotta go get my dogs some food. I'll try to educate you some more when I get back.

By: brrrrk on 2/15/11 at 12:39

yogiman said

"Please allow me to repeat... one more time. He says he was born in 1961 in Hawaii. If he was, in 1961, at her age, his mother, if she was married to his father, could not transfer her American citizenship to him. Just read the damn laws."

You know, I've been looking for these "damn laws" that you're ranting about... but I've yet to find anything specific to what you're talking about. So, instead of just talking about these "damn laws".... how about posting a link to these "damn laws"? I'm sure their out there somewhere in RWW (Right Wing World).

By: brrrrk on 2/15/11 at 12:50

Here's one for you yog-ster.

"Immigration and Nationality Act, Title III, SEC. 305. [8 U.S.C. 1405]

A person born in Hawaii on or after August 12, 1898, and before April 30, 1900, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900. A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth. A person who was a citizen of the Republic of Hawaii on August 12, 1898, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900."

http://immigration-usa.com/ina_96_title_3.html

By: Loner on 2/15/11 at 12:55

Excellent observation, Brrrk; in your 11:33 comment....that is quite ironic and revealing..

I suppose that the Second Amendment crowd has a single model for regime change in mind....their ideas about a citizen's revolution are based on the 1776 model, or maybe the 1861 model.

Canada did not need to fight a bloody war with the British Crown, over taxation....arguably, the Canadians today may have more personal freedom and liberty, when compared with their American neighbors. Was the Revolutionary War really just and necessary?

As for the 1861 model, if we dare to look, we can see the dark-side of the Second Amendment in action.

By: revo-lou on 2/15/11 at 1:12

{By: yogiman on 2/15/11 at 11:38
You should read a little bit more about the laws to gain a little bit of knowledge of them. You don't seem to want to accept anyone else knowledge.

I'll repeat to you. His parents did not have to have been born in the US. But, and may I repeat, BUT, they must have become naturalized citizens ... just so simple to learn the difference. Simply read the laws that our founders made for us and learn the reasons why.}

I don't know where you get your "law info", but pulling it out of your arse doesn't make it factual. Smelly, yes, factual, no.

The only requirment Obama needs to be a US citizen, capable of becomming the president, is that he be born in this country. Check! He is in!

Anything else you refute on this subject will continue to show that you are an ABSOLUTE idiot.

By: revo-lou on 2/15/11 at 1:31

I am not sure why I am trying to educate you, yogi, but I think your error falls into the misunderstanding about what IS law, and what some WANT to be law. Read this story, admit your mistake, and then redirect your rant to one that just claims that Obama was not born in the US.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/02/14/kerber.14th.amendment/index.html?hpt=C1#

By: Antisocialite on 2/15/11 at 1:31

yogiman is unhinged from reality... there is just no other way to put it.

You would think that the sheer magnitude and precision that a cover up like this would require would at least inspire some confidence in 'big government,' wouldn't you?

By: yogiman on 2/15/11 at 2:04

I'm back, children.

brrrrk,

Please re-read that law you stated and try to understand its meaning. It says; "is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900.": Now, since you are so intelligent you can site that law, read the explanation of "natural born citizen". I hope someday, you people can learn some valuable information pertaining to this nation. Simply being born in the US does not, may I repeat, does not make you a natural; born citizen.

If that was a fact, any female illegal alien, from any nation on this earth, could come into our nation, have a baby, take it back to their home country, and that baby would be eligible to become the president of our nation when it reached the age of 35.

By: house_of_pain on 2/15/11 at 2:27

Zero tolerance for "damn laws".

By: slacker on 2/15/11 at 2:58

Zero tolerance for ''Flying Carp and Nuns.''

By: gdiafante on 2/15/11 at 3:10

Here's what the Constitution says, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

That's all the Constitution says. However, Title I of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps. Section 1401 defines people who are citizens of the U.S. at birth:

A. Anyone born inside the United States
B. Any Indian or Eskimo born in the U.S., provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe.
C. Any one born outside the U.S., both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent lived in the U.S.
D. Any one born outside the U.S., if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national.
E. Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent isa citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year.
F. Any one found in the U.S. under the age of 5, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21.
G. Any one born outside the U.S., if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least 5 years.
H. A final, historical condition: a person born beofre 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born and eligible to run for President or Vice President.

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

Here ended the lesson.

By: brrrrk on 2/15/11 at 3:13

Done and done.....

By: dargent7 on 2/15/11 at 3:14

"Yogi Speak" is marginalized.
He's speaking from his rectum, which, cannot retort to the question at hand.
"The parents either have or do not have to be born in America.
If one or the orther is, or isn't present at the birth, it doesn't matter, by law.
The "baby" if born on American soil, is enabled and automatically given all American rights, citizenship, under the law. Amendment 14.
Up to, and including, running for the office of President of the United States.
Whatever this sociopathic idiotic moron is putting forth degrades this forum.
As if, we can go below zero.
The guy makes me want to puke.

By: slacker on 2/15/11 at 3:26

''ecce signum yogi''

By: brrrrk on 2/15/11 at 3:42

slacker said

''ecce signum yogi''

Translation.... Ya'll see?

By: house_of_pain on 2/15/11 at 4:21

Veni, vedi, vicious.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/15/11 at 4:23

By: Antisocialite on 2/15/11 at 12:31
yogiman is unhinged from reality... there is just no other way to put it.
You would think that the sheer magnitude and precision that a cover up like this would require would at least inspire some confidence in 'big government,' wouldn't you?

yogi clams to only have half a brain, which he thinks makes me superior to the rest of the world.

By: house_of_pain on 2/15/11 at 4:23

*vidi

By: slacker on 2/15/11 at 4:25

''flying carpe diem''

By: slacker on 2/15/11 at 4:27

''Flying Burrito Brothers''

By: slacker on 2/15/11 at 4:29

Gram Parsons walks into a bar....

By: house_of_pain on 2/15/11 at 4:33

Alan Parsons walks into the projects...

By: Captain Nemo on 2/15/11 at 4:35

By: yogiman on 2/15/11 at 9:46
Read the two books he is supposed to have written. If that doesn't raise a question in your mind, you don't apparently have much of a thinking capability between your ears. And your vision doesn't seem to go past your nose..

Does this indicate that yogi has proof that he did not write the two books?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/15/11 at 4:36

By: yogiman on 2/15/11 at 11:14
Please allow me to repeat... one more time. He says he was born in 1961 in Hawaii. If he was, in 1961, at her age, his mother, if she was married to his father, could not transfer her American citizenship to him. Just read the damn laws.

Please show the damn proof.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/15/11 at 4:36

Og yogi has a hard time understanding abstract thinking, let alone any facts.

He is a conspiracy junky and love to think…. They’re Coming to Take Me Away Ha-Ha

By: yogiman on 2/15/11 at 4:37

go ahead and puke, dargent7. It might make me feel better knowing you was beginning to think.

Let's play a little question and answer game.

What If: Barack Hussein's mother was married to the man he claims to be his father?
What if: Barack Hussein's mother married the man she lived with in Indonesia?
What if: Barack Hussein was adopted by the man from Indonesia his mother married to be he step-son?
What if: Barack Hussein went to school in Indonesia where you must be a Indonesian citizen to go to school there in that time period?
What if: Barack Hussein went to Pakistan, where American citizens were not permitted to be in that time period?
What if: There is no information or evidence presented or found that Barack Hussein had returned to his American citizenship?
What if: Factual evidence is found Barack Hussein is illegally in the office of the POTUS?

Just curious myself. I'm sure you all know.

By: revo-lou on 2/15/11 at 4:39

{ By: house_of_pain on 2/15/11 at 3:33
Alan Parsons walks into the projects...}

BEST EVER!!!!

By: house_of_pain on 2/15/11 at 4:39

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

By: Captain Nemo on 2/15/11 at 4:39

Here ended the lesson.
Good lesson gdia.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/15/11 at 4:40

Sorry to read about he Carp, Loner.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/15/11 at 4:44

Palin is Canada

By: revo-lou on 2/15/11 at 4:47

No, yogi, you are an idiot.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/15/11 at 4:50

What if this is all has been programmed in your head and there is nothing you can do about it, yogi?

What if you are plugged into a child’s game and a two year old is making you think in incoherent thoughts.

What if you are just a bug under a glass?

What if………

By: bfra on 2/15/11 at 4:51

yogi walked into a bar & said "What If?" and a flying carp hit him in the head!

By: Captain Nemo on 2/15/11 at 4:55

bfra-

Was it American Carp? If not then he would not know it. lol

By: house_of_pain on 2/15/11 at 4:57

The spawn of foreign carp should not enjoy automatic citizenship.