Viewpoints: 9/11 conspirators shouldn't be tried in federal court

Wednesday, February 3, 2010 at 1:04am

 

U.S. Senator Bob Corker ( R-Tenn.) is cosponsoring bipartisan legislation to prevent the use of Justice Department funds to prosecute Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and the 9/11 conspirators in federal court. The legislation, sponsored by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) currently has 18 co-sponsors. Here are Sen. Corker's comments:

“Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other al-Qaida terrorists should not be given the same rights as American citizens, and they should not be tried in a federal court.

“Congress responded to the 9/11 attacks by authorizing the use of military force and by developing a military commission system to detain enemy combatants and try those who violate the laws of war.

"Military commissions provide a fair standard of justice, reflect the true status of these terrorists according to U.S. and international law, and are the proper venue for the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks.”

 

278 Comments on this post:

By: DustyU on 2/3/10 at 10:22

Sid I guess I qualify - used to ride with the Outlaws motorcycle gang a quarter century ago :)

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 10:24

sid, you can't find the info on your own? must you be spoon fed?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 10:25

By: sidneyames on 2/3/10 at 10:18

So you guys admit to "baiting" me so that I will jump. I did not send a s-l-u-r! I merely posted.

I'll stop if they stop DustyU.
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I did not start first sid until you did.

By: DustyU on 2/3/10 at 10:26

sid - most hate groups don't keep membership rosters or make public how many members they have so any published numbers are at best guesses :(

By: sidneyames on 2/3/10 at 10:27

16:20 UTC (EST+5) Feb 03, 2010
308,610,423

right off the internet just minutes ago.

Hate Group Numbers Up By 54% Since 2000 The number of hate groups operating in the United States continued to rise in 2008 and has grown by 54 percent since 2000 — an increase fueled last year by immigration fears, a failing economy and the successful campaign of Barack Obama, according to the "Year in Hate" issue of the SPLC's Intelligence Report released today.
The SPLC identified 926 hate groups active in 2008, up more than 4 percent from the 888 groups in 2007 and far above the 602 groups documented in 2000.

So what is the total of the membership of these hate groups? Is it 1% of the total population? Is it 10% of the total population?
My guess is it's under 10% which would be 308,000 people divided by 926 groups which gives each group under 350 members each.

So HATE GROUPS are a minority. Why are we giving them so much press? The LOVE GROUPS AND LOVERS ARE AHEAD IN THE GAME.

Hate gets too much press? Let's press on with LOVE!

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 10:28

sid your buttons are so easy to push and you are predictable.

By: DustyU on 2/3/10 at 10:30

.considering some of the groups that SPLC labels as hate groups I'm not too sure they aren't one themselves :(

By: sidneyames on 2/3/10 at 10:31

By: DustyU on 2/3/10 at 10:22
Sid I guess I qualify - used to ride with the Outlaws motorcycle gang a quarter century ago :)

Dusty my hubby will walk a steel beam on the Trump tower or other high rise, but he's afraid to buy a motorcycle. He fell off a 2 story bldg, and isn't afraid to go back on a ladder but he's afraid of a motorcycle. I want a motorcycle. You are a hero!

Now are you saying that was a hate group? I thought bikers were lovers!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 10:24
sid, you can't find the info on your own? must you be spoon fed?
Found it! No spooning here please!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 10:32

the fundamentalist Muslims are the minority. why do we give them press?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 10:34

Dusty, which groups do you think should not be considered hate groups?

By: DustyU on 2/3/10 at 10:34

Later all - off to see doctors - hopefully get answer on surgery :)

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 10:35

The best Dusty. see ya

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 10:39

What is a hate group?

A hate group is an organized group or movement that advocates physical or verbal aggression toward or refusal to interact with persons on the ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_group
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an organization whose primary purpose is to promote animosity, hostility, and malice against persons belonging to a group of a race, religion ...
www.umw.edu/bias/terms/default.php
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The term “hate group” is used to describe any organization in any sector of society that aggressively demonizes or dehumanizes members of a ...
www.publiceye.org/glossary/glossary_big.html

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 10:39

Good luck, Dusty. I'm wishing good thoughts for you!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 10:41

dang, Nemo. some fundamentalist churches could fall under those definitions! you know, the "we're the only true religion" groups.

By: MamaG on 2/3/10 at 10:43

Captain, thanks for the link! Now I know who Jonah Falcon is! LOL

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 10:44

Pat Roberson come to mind, Blanket.

"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it," Robertson said. "They were under the heel of the French ... and they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, 'We will serve you if you'll get us free from the French.'"

"True story," he continued. "And the devil said, 'OK, it's a deal.' Ever since, they have been cursed by one thing after another."

By: bfra on 2/3/10 at 10:45

By: DustyU on 2/3/10 at 10:34
Later all - off to see doctors - hopefully get answer on surgery :)

Good luck & God Bless!

By: MamaG on 2/3/10 at 10:46

Well as the devil, he should know, Nemo!

By: MamaG on 2/3/10 at 10:47

Dusty, ditto others sentiments! I'm praying for ya!

By: sidneyames on 2/3/10 at 10:48

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 10:28
sid your buttons are so easy to push and you are predictable

Thank you for caring.

So hate groups: Do you think the 9-11 bombers are haters or lovers?

If I don't want to PAY for abortion, am I a hate group?

If I don't want to bus children all over in the name of better education, am I a hate group?

So if anyone disagrees with anything and stands up for their own beliefs and values, are they haters?

I hate sardines? Am I in a hate group, cause there are millions of people who don't order their pizza with sardines cause they hate them.

Should we be added to the hate list?

And by the way, is the Black Theology Church in Chicago (Rev. Jeremiah White) a hate group? I find it odd that a man named White is black and preaches hatred against whites in a Black theology church. (say that 3 times real fast).

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 10:48

"I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected him from your city. And don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for his help because he might not be there." --Pat Robertson, after the city of Dover, Pennsylvania voted to boot the current school board, which instituted an intelligent design policy that led to a federal trial

By: house_of_pain on 2/3/10 at 10:49

Don't let them talk you into an extended warranty, Dusty.

By: Funditto on 2/3/10 at 10:50

I hate sardines? Am I in a hate group, cause there are millions of people who don't order their pizza with sardines cause they hate them."

I'm writing book. This stuff is gold.

By: sidneyames on 2/3/10 at 10:51

By: DustyU on 2/3/10 at 10:34
Later all - off to see doctors - hopefully get answer on surgery :)

DustyU, prayers are being sent your way. Hope all is well.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 10:44
Pat Roberson come to mind, Blanket.

Pat Robertson is never on my mind - seriously. He's t.v. church and we all know they have that "send us your money' syndrome. Never took that bait.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 10:51

sid, read again the definition of a hate group. that should answer your questions.

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 10:51

By: sidneyames on 2/3/10 at 10:48
By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 10:28
sid your buttons are so easy to push and you are predictable

Thank you for caring.
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This has nothing to do with caring. It is a fact.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 10:52

By: house_of_pain on 2/3/10 at 10:49
Don't let them talk you into an extended warranty, Dusty.

i bought into that, house. in order to keep the extended warranty valid i'm required to do Zumba. gotta read the fine print, you know....

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 10:53

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 10:51
sid, read again the definition of a hate group. that should answer your questions.

Blanket posted a funny.

By: house_of_pain on 2/3/10 at 10:53

Since God has been voted out of Dover, PA, do you think he'll run for office in NY now?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 10:53

Funditto, you can't fix stupid.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 10:54

house, he runs for so many offices in the South, how would he have time for NY?

By: sidneyames on 2/3/10 at 10:54

: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 10:32
the fundamentalist Muslims are the minority. why do we give them press?

Because Blanket, "hate", violence, crime -- sells papers and movies!

By: Funditto on 2/3/10 at 10:50
I hate sardines? Am I in a hate group, cause there are millions of people who don't order their pizza with sardines cause they hate them."

I'm writing book. This stuff is gold.

Funditto, I already have that published in my book, so you be sure to give me credit or you'll have to answer to plagery (sp???). (just kidding)

By: sidneyames on 2/3/10 at 10:55

Oh yeah and RAP (yap) songs with violence against women! We need to zip those lips and stop that rap crap! And any other hate songs!

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 10:56

lol house

By: sidneyames on 2/3/10 at 10:57

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 10:51
sid, read again the definition of a hate group. that should answer your questions.

My questions are rhetorical and thus need no answers? And some of them are actually answered on this site. Go figure!

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 10:59

Blanket

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By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 11:01

By: sidneyames on 2/3/10 at 10:55
Oh yeah and RAP (yap) songs with violence against women! We need to zip those lips and stop that rap crap! And any other hate songs!

what about freedom of speech?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 11:02

By: sidneyames on 2/3/10 at 10:55
Oh yeah and RAP (yap) songs with violence against women! We need to zip those lips and stop that rap crap! And any other hate songs!
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Now say something about the white folks

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 11:02

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By: CAH on 2/3/10 at 11:05

Correction Loner. Cuba cashed the first check but all subsequent checks were last seen in a drawer in Castro's desk. According to International Law, cashing that first check ratified the perpetual lease and made it legal and binding.

The Cuban-American Treaty gave, among other things, the Republic of Cuba ultimate sovereignty over Guantánamo Bay while granting the United States "complete jurisdiction and control" of the area for coaling and naval stations.

A 1934 treaty reaffirming the lease granted Cuba and her trading partners free access through the bay, modified the lease payment from $2,000 in U.S. gold coins per year, to the 1934 equivalent value of $4,085 in U.S. dollars, and made the lease permanent unless both governments agreed to break it or the U.S. abandoned the base property. Since the Cuban Revolution, the government under Fidel Castro has cashed only one of the rent checks from the US government. The Cuban government maintains this was only done because of "confusion" in the heady early days of the revolution, while the US government maintains that the cashing constitutes an official validation of the treaty. The remaining uncashed checks made out to "Treasurer General of the Republic" (a position that has ceased to exist after the revolution) are kept in Castro's office stuffed into a desk drawer.[5]

You can find out more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_Naval_Base

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 11:05

that was an encore performance of "broken record" by sid, brought to you by TMI Productions.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 11:06

that's interesting, CAH. thanks for posting.

By: bfra on 2/3/10 at 11:14

Fun - I hate sardines? Am I in a hate group, cause there are millions of people who don't order their pizza with sardines cause they hate them.

Now I love sardines with crackers and a dash of hot sauce, don't want them on my pizza or those little salty fish (anchovies) either. Guess I am not in a hate group.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/3/10 at 11:16

well, if you decided to persecute the sardines you might be.

hey, it could be a Jeff Foxworthy spinoff. If you persecute sardines and try to exterminate them, you MIGHT be a hate group.....

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 11:17

LOL Balnket to both post.

Hello CAH How you doing?

By: Captain Nemo on 2/3/10 at 11:24

I will admit to being prejudice. I despise bigots.

By: Funditto on 2/3/10 at 11:27

Honest. All I'd have to is compile these posts - verbatim - and send them to a publisher. It would be a runaway best seller and a Hollywood smash. I'm thinking Vicki Lawrence would play sid. Debra Winger would be blanket. Queen Latifah would be Mama G and Micheal Moore would be D7...

By: dargent7 on 2/3/10 at 11:30

D-U: Outlaws, uh? I did picture you looking like "Yosemite Sam" or the "Frito Bandito". Close?

And nit-wit Sid says motorcycle clubs are for lovers? Introduce her to "The Hell's Angel's" or " The Diablos".