Viewpoints: Bredesen signs off

Monday, February 1, 2010 at 11:45pm

From Gov. Phil Bredesen's eighth and final State of the State speech [Feb. 1, 2010]:

This is likely my final time to address you as Governor. We still have a lot of work to do, and it’s far too early for farewell remarks.

I do want to say, however, a most sincere thank you for the way you have treated me and worked with me and my administration these past years. I have never had a job I enjoyed as much or gave me as much satisfaction as serving as Governor. It has been a humbling experience.

To those of you who have helped me, my sincere thanks. For those of you who have not, all is forgiven now! I know how much so many of you care for our state and its people, and it has been an honor to work with you on their behalf. Thank you and Godspeed.

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309 Comments on this post:

By: DustyU on 2/2/10 at 2:26

blanket - so true - one of the reasons that TN doesn't let felons vote because they KNOW it is :(

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 2:28

i don't think that allowing felons to vote would solve anything.....

By: sidneyames on 2/2/10 at 2:28

By: DustyU on 2/2/10 at 2:15
sid - why I speak out >>>

Dusty, I get it. But I will not defend women who try to freeze their babies to death, while they sleep off a drunken stuper in a warm cozy house in West End.

That woman is NOT HUMAN. She's a dog. No, I take that back. Dogs protect most of the time. She is totally selfish. A 22-month old in a freezing cold car ("Police said it was 28 degrees, and the car's engine was not warm").

I don't care if people don't like me. I'm still going to say this about her: NO MORE BABIES. She does not take CARE of them. She's irresponsible and evil.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 2:29

defending her is not the same as saying you shouldn't sterilize someone, sid! geez.

By: house_of_pain on 2/2/10 at 2:31

How about a compromise, sid...they could just weld her hoo-ha shut...

By: sidneyames on 2/2/10 at 2:32

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 2:21
sid, you are absurd.

Absurd? Because I hate child abusers? Or absurd because I brought the article to your conscience?

OR?

Thanks Dusty, I guess it was a misdeameanor leaving the 8 years old? OR maybe the 22 month old? It should all be felony for defenseless children. Wonder what would have been their fate if the 8 year old had gone looking for help? I shudder at the thought of that child wondering around in the cold dark. Breaks my heart for the children.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 2:32

house, i about spit out my coffee! HA!

By: sidneyames on 2/2/10 at 2:34

P.S. Dusty I treat my dogs better than that.

Yeah I joke about leaving them out in the cold. BUT never do it. Sammie loves the snow; so does Roy. But they only get to play out a short time.

Don't want to give them frost bite on their paws.

Roy's in the baby play pen right now (all 65 lbs) laying on a heating pad in the 40 degree florida room. I'm so abusive. The cat even is in there. ha, ha.

By: DustyU on 2/2/10 at 2:34

blanket - true but if someone has served their time including all their probation and parole why shouldn't they be allowed to vote? (Except their cellmate might have been their local council or assembly member's drug dealer)

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 2:35

sid, absurd that you don't think far enough ahead to see what making mandatory sterilization would do to society. careful not to open a can of worms!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 2:35

i don't disagree with that, Dusty. i just don't see how it would solve anything in regard to the issue with child abuse.

By: Kosh III on 2/2/10 at 2:36

Regarding birth control; we need more of it so stupid people will quit reproducing as in "LaVergne Woman left 3 babies in car so she could sleep off her drunken night in a warm bed in West End". I applaud those cops for catching her and saving her children."

Now tie her tubes or give her mandatory birth control pills. Sorry for being so mean, but her babies deserve better."

I agree! It's absurd that you have to be tested and licensed to cut fingernails, but anyone can have 2 minutes of "pleasure" and get knocked up.

Eugenics can be beneficial, the gene pool needs improvement.
The big question is: who decides?

By: brrrrk on 2/2/10 at 2:38

I'm just curious.... for all those out there that are anti abortion, what should be the punishment for having an abortion... or performing one?

By: sidneyames on 2/2/10 at 2:39

By: house_of_pain on 2/2/10 at 2:31
How about a compromise, sid...they could just weld her hoo-ha shut...

That would be tantamount to sterilization. Don't 'cha thank?

DustyU, I'm actually in agreement. After their time is served; paid their debt to society maybe then they should be re-introduced to society a little at a time. Like first: A job. It's rough for felons to get a decent job. No bank teller jobs, but at least a decent job.
Then let them vote in local elections, then state and then national - sort of spread out. If they vote on a local election and don't get in more trouble, the graduate.

And so on. BUT if they are "repeat" offenders, no deal. No vote! Sounds reasonable to me.

AND the same for child abusers. No children for 25 years after the first abuse. THEN maybe..

By: house_of_pain on 2/2/10 at 2:39

The death penalty!! Wait...

By: gdiafante on 2/2/10 at 2:39

"blanket - true but if someone has served their time including all their probation and parole why shouldn't they be allowed to vote?"

They gave up that right when they decided to commit a felony.

By: DustyU on 2/2/10 at 2:40

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 2:25
wow, Dusty - really? our justice system is so screwed up.
By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 2:35
i don't disagree with that, Dusty. i just don't see how it would solve anything in regard to the issue with child abuse.

Blanket - I wasn't thinking in terms of limiting child abuse but in more general terms of our F#$@ up judicial system - don't anybody dare call it a justice system :(

By: Kosh III on 2/2/10 at 2:36
Eugenics can be beneficial, the gene pool needs improvement.
The big question is: who decides?

k3 exactly :( - maybe the patrons of that gay piano bar? :)

By: sidneyames on 2/2/10 at 2:41

By: brrrrk on 2/2/10 at 2:38
I'm just curious.... for all those out there that are anti abortion, what should be the punishment for having an abortion... or performing one?

Brrrrk: I'm not for state funded abortion. I am for self-funded abortion. So if someone is having a legal abortion, there is no penalty for that. Why would there be? At this time, abortion is legal. So the argument is moot.

By: MamaG on 2/2/10 at 2:42

Brrrrk, I would suggest your friend call a lawyer, pronto! Justice is her right and Bart Durham demands it, by gosh and by golly! That is an outrage!!! (As for the hearing aid situation, I'm not sure about that one...)

By: sidneyames on 2/2/10 at 2:43

By: gdiafante on 2/2/10 at 2:39
"blanket - true but if someone has served their time including all their probation and parole why shouldn't they be allowed to vote?"

They gave up that right when they decided to commit a felony.

BUT G, what about those who didn't think it through? YOu know, the felony was a mistake, or done without thinking, impulse, the devil made them do it"? Should that count as points for them? Some felonies just "happen" like SH*T happens. YOu know what I mean.

If not, why not?

By: gdiafante on 2/2/10 at 2:43

Et tu Mama?

I can't believe you would recommend that ambulance chasing degenerate when Darg and I are looking for new clients...and you know we are above reproach...

By: DustyU on 2/2/10 at 2:45

gdia - if you lock a dog in a cage for years then turn it loose on the streets you wouldn't expect it to act nice - why do you want to do that with humans? Last time I saw any statistics the USA has the highest percentage of adult population in prison in the world :(

By: sidneyames on 2/2/10 at 2:46

By: MamaG on 2/2/10 at 2:42
Brrrrk, I would suggest your friend call a lawyer, pronto! Justice is her right and Bart Durham demands it, by gosh and by golly! That is an outrage!!! (As for the hearing aid situation, I'm not sure about that one...

Mama, maybe she should have driven herself to my rental condo. (just kidding; she's probably honest) The last person who "said" they fell down our steps, got $129,000 or so. Insurance settled cause it was a nusiance case (after 2 years of depositions). She lied! But she got the money! Not from Bart though.

By: gdiafante on 2/2/10 at 2:48

And they're all in there for no reason, Dusty. Sorry, commit a felony, you lose some rights.

And no, I'm not for turning our already joke of a judicial system into a federally funded timeout for morons.

By: bfra on 2/2/10 at 2:57

By: house_of_pain on 2/2/10 at 2:22
...then they came for the douchebags...and we were happy to see John Rich go.

Bet you could find scads of people to agree on that one!

By: DustyU on 2/2/10 at 2:59

gdia - so I got stupid 23 years ago - so I have no rights for the rest of my life? Thanks!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 3:03

do they get their rights back if they work to have the felony removed from their record?

By: MamaG on 2/2/10 at 3:03

G, please forgive my idiocy in the mentioning of his name. I completely forgot that you and Darge were in cahoots, er, business together now! What was the company name again?
Brrrrk, That's who I would recommend. LOL
(And in my own defense, I didn't actually suggest brrrk's friend call him--those stupid commercials just popped in my mind when I thought about a lawyer! It's all good Gdia! You know you are the best!!!)

Sidney, are you familiar with the term "Too Much Information?" We all share a little but you seem to share more than necessary about yourself. It's all well and good if you want to put your life out there for all of us to read about. Frankly, I don't think any of us care too much. No offense intended.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 3:04

mandatory sterlization is being lobbied by TMI Productions.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 3:05

Dusty, recent studies on nature vs. nuture does not do much to support rehabilitation arguments. and that's a hard one for me to admit.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 3:06

i think overpopulation is caused by huge sentences for non-violent drug crimes and not enough sentencing for violent crimes. it's very skewed.

By: gdiafante on 2/2/10 at 3:07

You have rights, you just can't vote. You should have thought about the consequences of your actions. And no, I don't subscribe to the "I was young and stupid" defense. Everyone is young and stupid but the majority don't commit felonies.

By: MamaG on 2/2/10 at 3:07

Check out speakout.com--they have a lot of info about felon's voting rights. For example:
"...With the exceptions of Maine, Vermont and Massachusetts, the remaining 46 states and the District of Columbia prohibit inmates serving felony convictions from voting in any public elections. While a majority of states restore voting rights to convicted felons after they complete their prison terms or probation periods, at least ten states, including Virginia, Delaware and New Mexico permanently prohibit former felons from voting."

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 3:07

but not all felonies are alike. vandalism over $500 is a felony. that's certainly not in the same ball park as armed robbery.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 3:08

good info, Mama. i know that with certain felonies you can work to have them expunged.

By: MamaG on 2/2/10 at 3:08

And this:

The legal authority of a state to revoke an inmate's voting rights is based upon the Fourteenth Amendment. While this amendment stipulates that, "no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States", it allows for the denying of the voting rights of individuals guilty of "participation in rebellion, or other crime". Under current law, the federal government may not infringe upon a state's authority to grant or rescind voting rights to prison inmates and former felons.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 3:09

states rights. interesting. unless it's a federal crime?

By: sidneyames on 2/2/10 at 3:10

Sidney, are you familiar with the term "Too Much Information?" We all share a little but you seem to share more than necessary about yourself. It's all well and good if you want to put your life out there for all of us to read about. Frankly, I don't think any of us care too much. No offense intended.

So mama it's ok if you and others want to personalize this forum but not me? Like who cares about some woman who stumbled around in the rain and fell over a truck and got no insurance? And who cares about a man who can't hear? And if I had time to research like DARGE does, I'd find countless of personal stories about diabetes, blood pressure, kids, etc.

So, mama, I listen to everyone else and don't criticize their amount or content. If I disagree, I say so. If I agree I say so.

I think you "kettles calling this pot black" need to re-evaluate your posts and the content.

You all criticize and scrutinize me as IF you think you're all perfect. Hmmmm. Yeah, in your own minds you are.

By: MamaG on 2/2/10 at 3:10

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 3:06
i think overpopulation is caused by huge sentences for non-violent drug crimes and not enough sentencing for violent crimes. it's very skewed.

I totally agree with this statement, blanket.

By: DustyU on 2/2/10 at 3:12

blanket - they have proven that murderers and such have the lowest recidivism rates and back when they allowed inmates to take mail-order college courses their recidivism rates dropped 75% - too successful so they killed the programs - too much money to make keeping people in the system - for example corrections is the largest employer in Alaska after the military.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 3:12

and from her latest release "Golden Showers in My Garden" is sid doing "Posters Are Unfair" brought to you by TMI Productions.

By: brrrrk on 2/2/10 at 3:13

sidneyames said

"Brrrrk: I'm not for state funded abortion. I am for self-funded abortion. So if someone is having a legal abortion, there is no penalty for that. Why would there be? At this time, abortion is legal. So the argument is moot."

So I'm assuming you have no problem with legal abortions? I guess my question should have been.... for those who think abortion shouldn't be legal, what should the punishment be?

By: sidneyames on 2/2/10 at 3:13

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 3:07
but not all felonies are alike. vandalism over $500 is a felony. that's certainly not in the same ball park as armed robbery.

I agree also blanket. Some felonies (so-called) are committed when one is young, out of work or as I said "without forethought".

If DustyU was one of those, and he sounds like it in one of his posts, then a person's life should speak for itself.

Time out of jail is the true measure of a person's change of heart and life style. That deserves some credit.

(PS not for child abusers, though)

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 3:15

Dusty, i guess that depends on who is doing the study. because i've seen radically different numbers. not that i don't agree that the prison system is big money......

By: gdiafante on 2/2/10 at 3:15

Iowa doesn't allow rehabilitated felons to vote. And they shouldn't. I don't care if it's vandalism or murder.

That's the inner Conservative in me, but I've seen a couple felons at work. If I had my way, most of them would be sent to the damn sun.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 2/2/10 at 3:16

i see your point, g. i don't like the idea of felons having the ability to influence an election. what if they work to have the charges expunged? what do you think of that?

By: brrrrk on 2/2/10 at 3:18

gdiafante said

"Iowa doesn't allow rehabilitated felons to vote. And they shouldn't. I don't care if it's vandalism or murder."

And what if the vandalism was an act of political dissent, i.e. the Boston Tea Party?...

By: sidneyames on 2/2/10 at 3:18

By: DustyU on 2/2/10 at 10:46
sid - not hateful - just pointing out something wrong! If nobody speaks up ?

Dusty if I came across as thinking you're hateful, sorry. I know you are a kind spirited person.

Capt. said "In your rush to get d7 to give a verbal spanking you did not see that it was me that made the post. I stand by me remark about you being into S&M."

Correction: Capt. I never said D7 made the comment. I was generalizing. But thanks for fessing up. It's nice to know who's one's friends are. I love you too.

By: MamaG on 2/2/10 at 3:18

By sidney: Mama, maybe she should have driven herself to my rental condo. (just kidding; she's probably honest) The last person who "said" they fell down our steps, got $129,000 or so. Insurance settled cause it was a nusiance case (after 2 years of depositions). She lied! But she got the money! Not from Bart though.

This is an example, sidney. This was a stupid thing to say in regards to Brrrrk's friend who was seriously injured. This post reads as if you just want us to know you have a rental condo. And while we're on the subject, just how do you know the person lied? Were you there? Videotape? Witnesses?

By: DustyU on 2/2/10 at 3:20

gdia - I hope for your sake your words never come back to haunt you :(