Viewpoints: Fear of heartlessness

Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 12:52am

If 50 major cities like Nashville need $72 million dollars each [to fight homelessness], that is $3.6 trillion plus more over time to maintain the new bureaucracy, housing, food and medicine.

That's not likely to happen.

The unspoken reason why Nashville — or other cities — do not proceed in this direction is the fear of "build it and they will come" syndrome. If Nashville spends that much money for facilities, housing, food, medical, etc., the homeless will flood into Nashville from elsewhere for your handouts and your expenses will grow exponentially. 

Your leadership knows this but will not say it for fear of sounding heartless. Money will not solve this homeless problem.

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221 Comments on this post:

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 6:48

Don't really understand this person's math. Think he meant to say, $3.6 BILLION. And if 50 of America's cities received $72 million each for the "homeless", thatwould be money well spent.
I doubt the "homeless" would flock here in droves. Personally, I'd get over to the sunnier climes in Florida. Key West sounds about right.
If we can find the money to finance two wars running at $2 billion a week, we can help our own. Many "homeless" are war vets from the Vietnam era.

By: sidneyames on 1/12/10 at 8:19

Nashville TN is already one of the target cities for the homeless; the weather is usually nice and there are good programs here. That's why they come here.

Paul, I'd like to see your statistics onthe "many 'homeless'" war vets from the Viettnam era. I hear that but I'd like to see the numbers. Do you have a source where they can be found. And Florida is not friendly to homeless.

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 8:43

Have two great "OFF" Topics today:
1) Mark McGwire's confession on steriod use.
2) "Blago" stating he's "blacker than Obama" because he shined shoes as a kid.
And his dad owned a Laundermat in a black neighborhood.

By: house_of_pain on 1/12/10 at 8:47

There is no easy solution to "The Homeless Problem".
Mark McGwire is a d-bag.

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 9:05

House: You need to learn to express yourself more.

By: sidneyames on 1/12/10 at 9:05

House, you are correct with the "homeless" matter. I have spoken with some homeless people who say they choose to not rent an apartment or home due to the "rules". There is also the matter of some homeless people having drug related issues. It's complicated.

D7 said that a lot of Vietnam vets are homeless. Do you know where I can read those stats? As usual, at 7:19 a.m. I asked him a grown up question and he replied at 7:43 with "nothing".

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 9:37

"Baracuda": I read you loud and clear. I'm not into it today. Go play in a different sandbox, or better yet, with yourself.

By: sidneyames on 1/12/10 at 9:51

D7 I asked an intelligent question, based on your post. So you can't even come up with an intelligent, polite answer.

So, actually you are "into it today". So, you go play in a different sand box or better yet, with yourself, cause you do that all the time anyway.

I'm just mirroring back to you what you project to me. When you project "polite" and courteous, then you'll get it back.

Keep up the nasty! That's your middle name. Paul Nasty D-7.

By: gdiafante on 1/12/10 at 10:17

Nice letter. More of that Christian practicality, I suppose.

House is right.

By: house_of_pain on 1/12/10 at 10:35

You think McGwire is a d-bag, gd?
"Okay, I admit it...I used steroids. I'm sorry." (insert teardrop here)
Too late. No HOF for you!

By: gdiafante on 1/12/10 at 10:44

Well, I'm mixed on it House, but let's be honest, steroids or no steroids, the MLB needed that home run race. It probably saved baseball.

On the other side, I don't really like baseball so I don't care about it one way or the other. He did what he had to do so he can be the hitting coach. I think by now it's not who used steroids, but who didn't.

Just put an asterick by every record attained in that era and move on.

By: brrrrk on 1/12/10 at 10:44

house_of_pain said

"You think McGwire is a d-bag, gd?
'Okay, I admit it...I used steroids. I'm sorry.' (insert teardrop here)
Too late. No HOF for you!"

Couldn't have put it better.... In fact, I'd put Pete Rose in the HOF looooooong before I'd consider McGwire at this point.

By: house_of_pain on 1/12/10 at 10:46

Agreed, brrrrk & gd...and I'm no baseball fan, either.

By: gdiafante on 1/12/10 at 10:50

I was about to mention Rose, brrrrk. I don't have a problem with Rose being in the HOF, he should be, he was one of the best players of all time. So he gambled on games as a manager...probably like steroids, who didn't?

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 10:50

Pete Rose in the HOF? He bet against his own team as a player/ manager.
I was lucky enough to witness the '68 Tigers and again in '84 win the World Series on nothing but talent and oxygen.

By: ycartrob on 1/12/10 at 10:51

sidney, I really don't understand people like you. You obviously have a computer, right? And for some reason you want someone else to spoon feed you statistics on homeless Vietnam vets. Have you heard of Google? It's an amazing search engine! All you do is type in what you're researching, for example HOMELESS VIETNAM VETS and it will come up with links that have the information you are looking for. I did a search and within 10 seconds I have the information you have been waiting for someone else to give you. But you know what? You're simply going to have to find it yourself.

By: gdiafante on 1/12/10 at 10:54

Also, McGuire could be lying, but to me I believe he would use Steroids and HGH to recover from injuries as he grew older more than to assault the recordbook.

I think most people do too. Bonds is a different story.

By: gdiafante on 1/12/10 at 10:56

Darge, take Rose's numbers until he bet on games, they are HOF worthy. It's fine, you can wait until he's taking a dirt nap, but what he did before the gambling justifies his bust in Cooperstown.

By: gdiafante on 1/12/10 at 11:15

Darge...did you see this??

http://news-briefs.ew.com/2010/01/12/yellow-submarine-remake-casts-its-beatles/

Is Hollywood the mecca of unorginality and bad ideas or what??

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 11:19

gdia: Look at Denny McClain (if you're old enough) Was a 31 game winner, Cy Young Award, helped win the Detroit Tigers the pennant and '68 World Series, then fell into loan sharking, numbers, racketeering. He lost it all...his wife, family, prison.
Let's not even mention OJ.

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 11:22

gdia: A footnote: When I mentioned Lady GaGa yesterday, I just liked the name. Never saw her video, music. Today, I listened to her hit; "Poker Face", and I LOVE it! Sounds like a higher tech Brittney Spears, "Oops, I Did it again". Bet they're playing that song in every aerobics class in every gym in America.

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 11:24

gdia: With "Chiefy" shipped off to Iraq, are YOU the one posting the URL's and Links? Oh, God...you're becoming Chief!

By: gdiafante on 1/12/10 at 11:26

"Pokerface" is already old. "Bad Romance" is her new hit. Yes, I know entirely too much about her...the wife is a fan.

I actually think "Paparazzi" isn't a bad song. She does seem to have catchy tunes...and you can dance to it.

By: gdiafante on 1/12/10 at 11:27

Darge, no reason to insult!!

This link is about the Beatles, though, thought you'd have an opinion. The links Chief posts are usually phony opinion pieces that smack of his insanity.

By: house_of_pain on 1/12/10 at 11:27

Yeah, I'm getting tired of all the remakes...movies & music.

By: brrrrk on 1/12/10 at 11:28

gdiafante said

"Darge, take Rose's numbers until he bet on games, they are HOF worthy. It's fine, you can wait until he's taking a dirt nap, but what he did before the gambling justifies his bust in Cooperstown."

I'll agree with that gd....

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 11:28

ycartrob: My sentence was "Many homeless are from the Vietnam era"....covers from 1962-74. Many cardboard signs I see guys in wheelchairs and sitting on sidewalks say, "Vietnam Vet". Sid's a person who likes to pick a fight, that's all.

By: Funditto on 1/12/10 at 11:29

has anyone discussed Sarah Palin taking a job at FOX News? Haven't seen anything and I just heard about it.

By: Funditto on 1/12/10 at 11:31

ycart: sid meets one person in one situation (homeless, medical care, etc) and has one conversation - then suddenly she's an expert.

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 11:32

gdia: I was just kidding about the "Chief". He is in Iraq, though. I told the sob not to go...for some reason he's chosen to follow "orders". I'll listen to the other Lady GaGa songs...but, must say, "Poker Face" is damn good! Then again, I still like "Paranoid" by Black Sabbath.

By: DustyU on 1/12/10 at 11:32

D7 - yes the last statistics I saw a couple years ago put veterans (all as a group) at over 25% of homeless adults. In some cities like Buffalo that percentage approaches 40%. Sid - these figures don't get out much because the military doesn't want to admit they don't take care of their own. VA and even even the local annual help homeless veteran thingy won't lift a finger for a vet with an other than honorable discharge. I wrote a song a couple years back while living under the Gateway bridge called "Homeless veterans of America". Just like the "real" unemployment figure is close to 18%.

By: brrrrk on 1/12/10 at 11:33

So it comes out that Palin didn't know why there was a North or South Korea, had to be tutored on history, had to have nuclear spelled out phonetically for her but still couldn't say it (hell, I've seen a dog say it on youtube), and "had" issues with telling the truth.

It's no wonder Fox "News" wants to snatch her up....

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 11:34

Fund-O: Got a LTE in place as we speak. TCP should run it tomorrow.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/12/10 at 11:36

ycart - good to see you!

Hi, Fundi. yeah, Palin on Fox News. match made in hell - lol!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/12/10 at 11:36

after all, we can get updates on Russia all day long now.

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 11:36

brrrrk: The book "Game Change" outs Palin as a nut, but no more than "60 Minutes" did last Sunday. Thinks 9/11 was Hussein's idea and couldn't get Joe Biden's name right, so just called him, "Joe".

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/12/10 at 11:37

did anyone see lame McCain on the Today Show this morning defending Palin? what a tool.

By: DustyU on 1/12/10 at 11:38

blanket - true! :)

By: gdiafante on 1/12/10 at 11:39

I know Darge...lol

Oh man, Paranoid...good time...you can't get any heavier guitar than Tony Iommi.

Here's some trivia, Sabbath got their sound because Iommi is missing a few fingertips, he lessened the tension of the strings for comfort, ended up creating the sound of Heavy Metal.

Palin: why wouldn't an idiot want to be near her kind?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 1/12/10 at 11:41

great. a herd of idiots. televised. daily.

By: DustyU on 1/12/10 at 11:41

Gdia - I didn't lnow that - cool! True about palin sad to say.

By: Loner on 1/12/10 at 11:42

Where's today's LTE? Is this the default roosting board?

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 11:43

gdia: My absolute favorite Black Sabbath song was "Supernaut".
Hey, don't cange the subject.
You never told me why Dennis Rodman is still on TV.
No fair asking Nazi.

By: gdiafante on 1/12/10 at 11:46

That's a good song. My favorite may be "Snowblind"...the solo absolutely shreds. Lyrics are interesting too...lol

I didn't realize Rodman was still on TV? I'll attribute it to Fox News being popular...reduces the intellectual material across the board...

By: DustyU on 1/12/10 at 11:46

Hi Loner - guess so - p2 is on jameson questions comline

By: brrrrk on 1/12/10 at 11:48

Blanketnazi2 said

"did anyone see lame McCain on the Today Show this morning defending Palin? what a tool."

I agree, but then again, do you expect anything different? He has to know that the decision to bring Palin onto the ticket was one of the worst (if not THE worst) political decisions in the history of politics. I bet there are nights when even he lays in bed thinking. "Thank God that woman didn't get close to the White House". And do I expect her to run for President in 2012? I believe that if she does run, it'll be a half-hearted attempt at best. Ultimately I think she's a self serving, lazy, money chaser.... once she gets in that high cotton at Fox, that'll be it for her.

By: house_of_pain on 1/12/10 at 11:49

Didn't you guys say there used to be a poster here that went by my2centsworth?
I've been trying to use reason with the MF at the other paper...not working. I give up.

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 11:52

I do turn on FOX News....mostly FOX & Friends. Their "commentator", "anaylist", "strategist" line up is straight from Hell, Inc.:
Dick Morris, Karl Rove, Huckabee, Romney, Maulkin, Parino, Steele, ......
Then, at night the Black Hole expands...Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter, Bernie Goldberg.
No ONE on that show has anything positive to say about Obama.
Palin will be like a hog at the trough. It should be fun.

By: Loner on 1/12/10 at 11:53

Thanks, Dusty.

I left a new_york_loner comment about Junior Ford's NY ambitions here:

http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2010/01/11/difficult-not-impossible-junior-can-win-in-new-york/#comment-709395

The Viewpoint author is probably correct; be nice to the homeless and they will flock to your city. It's a case of supply and demand.

By: dargent7 on 1/12/10 at 11:54

House: "2 Cents, ed 179, and Stop the Lunacy" are three escaped mental patient/ convicts from Detroit. Tenn. cannot grow imbiciles of that quality here.