Viewpoints: A rush to silence Limbaugh

Friday, March 26, 2010 at 2:50pm

When Democrats joined President Obama in getting a controversial health care package passed, talk radio's Rush Limbaugh reacted with “We need to defeat these bastards. We need to wipe them out.” In response — and with a call to boast donations to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee — Paul Begala, a political consultant and former host of CNN's Crossfire, had these words:

“Democrats extend health care to 32 million people, and how do Republicans react? Their eyes get all crazy-like. They throw fits. They vow repeal. And they will track down every Democratic member of Congress like bloodhounds on the chase.

“Look, we didn't fight all these years for health care reform to see it dismantled by a radio blowhard, a bunch of regressive Republicans and an angry mob of right wingers. But their rhetoric will only grow more dangerous and threaten President Obama's accomplishments and future agenda. So when that FEC deadline comes Wednesday at midnight, we as Democrats need to show our post-health care strength.

“On the Senate floor, Judd Gregg compared health care reform to not only a "huge asteroid," but a huge asteroid that will "land on our children's heads." Rep. John Boehner ranted at the top of his lungs until his face turned beet red. Glenn Beck cried. And "tyranny" and "socialism" are hot new topics on Twitter. I've gotta ask: What is WRONG with these people?

“I haven't heard such claptrap from the Republicans since they said President Clinton's economic plan would be "a one-way ticket to a recession." They were wrong about Clintonomics, which balanced the budget while creating 23 million new jobs and lifting millions out of poverty. And they're just as wrong about Obamacare, which at its heart just means a family doctor for every family.

“And if you think it couldn't possibly get any worse, just wait. The lies will only get more airplay now that corporations can spend unlimited money for candidates. Special interests are already spending more than $800,000 per day to kill President Obama's agenda. This number will only grow.

“It might be laughable — if it weren't so dangerous. This election will determine the future of everything we've accomplished. Do we stand with President Obama and his progressive vision? Or do we let crazy conservatives destroy everything? Here's the only acceptable answer: We fight.

“Republicans want to drag this country kicking and screaming into the 19th century. It's up to you and me to make sure it doesn't happen.”


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By: dooley on 3/29/10 at 2:51

I predict that Rush Limbaugh will die of a stroke , Glenn Beck will drown in his own tears and Sarah Palin will go on comedy central or maybe with Dave Chapell after she kills McCains bid for reelection through her raucous stupidity and Rupert Murdock will just get richer off the backs of these idiots .

By: dargent7 on 3/29/10 at 4:47

Yesterday's 3 Star LTR in The Tennessean was great on reminding everyone that when FDR signed into law Social Security, everyone said it would ruin the country. When LBJ signed Medicare, everyone said it would ruin the country.
Now, it's Obama who's reforming Health Care "and it will ruin the country".

By: sidneyames on 3/29/10 at 6:39

I never listened to Rush L. till this week. Thank you D7 for yapping about what a jerk he is. During my drive to memphis, I was surfing the radio dial. I ran across Rush and listened for the FIRST time.

He's right on and I'm glad he's out there campaiging against the hell-care reform. No that is not a typo. I said HELL-care.

It is making the insurance companies rich in the short run. In the long run, it will create a government owned and government run health care system.

I hate it. D7 you are so sweet for turning my attention to Rush. Thank you honey. You're SPA-cial!

By: govskeptic on 3/29/10 at 6:39

Well 7, we don't yet know if you and this "Editorial" are right or wrong at
this point. We'll just have to wait a few months to find out what the truth
or fiction was in this legislation. The way pros and cons go into affect
in this monster, we may have to wait yrs to know the full affect!

One point is absolutely true: Government intervention into the American Economy over the past 16 months or so is truly massive.

By: idgaf on 3/29/10 at 6:46

7 When the baby boomers start collecting all those benifits it will collapse the system.

Just recently SS has paid more out then it took in and it comes from the unfunded IOUs and the boomers have just begun to collect.

Many bubbles are about to burst and all of you together don't have the brains that Rush et al have to see it coming. You are living in a fiscal fantasy world.

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 6:50

Good morning, Nashville!

Frank Rich pretty much nailed it in his op-ed piece in the NYT this weekend. Here's the URL:

The title of the piece is "The Rage Is Not About Health Care ". and I recommend its reading.

Here's a snippet -

Are these politicians so frightened of offending anyone in the Tea Party-Glenn Beck base that they would rather fall silent than call out its extremist elements and their enablers? Seemingly so, and if G.O.P. leaders of all stripes, from Romney to Mitch McConnell to Olympia Snowe to Lindsey Graham, are afraid of these forces, that’s the strongest possible indicator that the rest of us have reason to fear them too.

By: dooley on 3/29/10 at 6:53

Id you are still as looney as ever.

By: dooley on 3/29/10 at 6:54

Sid is right there with you . You must be her mentor.

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 7:00

I agree with President Obama, if the Republicans want to tie themselves to a repeal agenda then "go for it!". Once the electorate realizes that the GOP boogey man was a scare tactic without substance, Obama's popularity will rise again.

Once the positive testimonials start coming in, all the right-wing demagoguery and hate speech will be exposed for what it is. The GOP bet the farm on obstructionism, now they are the big losers and they know it.

By: gdiafante on 3/29/10 at 7:15

Sid likes Rush.


Yes, that was sarcasm.

By: gdiafante on 3/29/10 at 7:21

I read a nice article this weekend about how the GOP was for this health care reform before they were against it. Seems like a lot of the bill is stuff they offered to counter Bill Clinton's reform and Obama chose to adopt it. Not to mention that Romney supported it in 2006 in MA.

I'll try to find the article, can't remember which paper it was.

By: idgaf on 3/29/10 at 7:31

By: dooley on 3/29/10 at 7:53
Id you are still as looney as ever.

Guess you can't dispute the points that you have to fall back on the leftys default agrument of personal attack.

By: Kosh III on 3/29/10 at 7:44

"leftys default agrument of personal attack."

Attacks? Like calling people Hitlery, surrender monkeys, traitors, you lie, niccer, fxg, feminazi?

By: Kosh III on 3/29/10 at 7:45

Anybody read the Tennessean article about how the Knoxville convention center needs taxpayer money to stay open?

We're next.

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 7:47

Tim Tebow coming to the Buffalo Bills? God, I certainly hope not; those eyeball-rolling moments of Christian witnessing would go over very well with an NFL team based in the Bible Belt; in Western New York, we don't really go for public displays of Christian devotion, like they do in "Jesus country". No, Tim Tebow would not be a good fit for the Bills....the guy is a christian fanatic, he should just go into the ministry, along with his sickeningly devoted mother and forget about football, IMO.

If the Bills sign Tebow, they will lose this fan.

By: dargent7 on 3/29/10 at 7:54

Sidiot, et al: I DID NOT write this 'Editorial". You're now taking your marching orders from Sidiot? She doesn't know what day it is.
Guy who wrote it is frequently on cable news as a Democratic strategist: Paul Begala". I'm no Paul Begala.

By: BenDover on 3/29/10 at 7:56

10 year treasuries on the rise... Obama's approval in the dumper... and more red-meat served up for the lefties. Welcome to the Obama-nation.

Looks like there's already blood in the water today so I think I'll skip the frenzy. Y'all have fun and play nice now.

By: dargent7 on 3/29/10 at 7:59

Anyone get lead iin their collective pencils watching and listening to Sarah Palin stump for McCain?
It was great! Palin is a two time looser and McCain might loose his Senate seat. So, on the sidelines he summons bobble head to say a few choice, redundant, psychotic words.
The want to, "take our country back...."
Well, in America, if you loose, you may launch a "come back", but you don't get to take anything "back" you fairly lost.

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 8:02

Ben Dover chickens out?

Maybe he has bigger fish to fry. Christian militia are on alert all across the fruited plain. Ben's cleaning his firearms, packing a survivalist bag and preparing to do battle with the Anti-Christ....with a major agenda like that, why bother posting on the NCP?

We all know that Jesus carried a weapon and advocated armed insurrection, right?

By: dargent7 on 3/29/10 at 8:06

Loner: Well, OJ Simpson was a Bill and he only killed two people. maybe the team has reformed. Tebow sure as hell couldn't very well go to the Lions or Steelers that harbor safe havens for rapists and felons.

By: gdiafante on 3/29/10 at 8:06

Notice that Ben defended W's pitiful approval rating, now he cites it as fuel against Obama.

I think you know the word I'm looking for.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/29/10 at 8:07

g, Maddow did a good piece last week on how the GOP was behind the healthcare ideals before they were against it.

By: house_of_pain on 3/29/10 at 8:15

Loner, Tebow might be good for you gawdless heathens...we certainly don't want him.

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 8:18

I saw the Palin-McCain show this weekend too, D7. Damn, she has one of the most irritating, high-pitched, whiney voices that I've ever heard. Her lines are all scripted, the woman is a complete air-head....that's exactly what the War Lobby prefers in a Chief Executive in the WH. The War lobby prefers to dictate policy to a brain dead president, like Jr. Bush. Sarah Palin would make an excellent figurehead president, completely controlled by the War Lobby.

What ever happened to the good old days, when political losers and quitters just slipped off into oblivion? Nowadays they hang around and carp, belittle and besmirch.

Norman Podhoretz, the neocon war-monger and Israeli 5-th columnist, has taken to defending Sarah Palin, in the WSJ.

Ever since Rupert Murdoch bought the WSJ, its honesty and intellectual value has nose-dived, today, the WSJ is little more than an extension of the Jerusalem Post.

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 8:27

With Tebow, a return of the John 3:16 signs in the end zones would undoubtedly occur. Prayer vigils on the sidelines would become a regular feature of the Bill's "strategy". Fans might start to dress up as Jesus of Nazareth....plastic crowns of thorns might become popular along with the stigmata...the Browns have their dog pound. The Bills would have their Jesus freaks.

Hey, Christ was a jockstrap, we know that now, thanks to Timmy and his mommy.

By: RealityRosie on 3/29/10 at 8:30




By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 8:33

Christ was a soldier, Christ was a jock, Christ was an investment counselor, Christ was a death penalty advocate and Christ was a Zionist who hated do we know this? Through the process of deductive reasoning..... If we look at those who profess to be Christians and go from there, we can conclude that Jesus was some kind of an A-hole.

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 8:44

The Steeler's Antonio Holmes allegedly cut a woman's face in a nightclub fight this past weekend. There's a role model for kids. Any bets on whether Holmes goes to jail, like anybody else would in a similar situation, or will lawyers and hush money keep Holmes on the playing field?

By: brrrrk on 3/29/10 at 9:10

house_of_pain said

"Loner, Tebow might be good for you gawdless heathens...we certainly don't want him."

I don't care who Tebow goes with because no matter who he ends up playing with, he's gonna get his clock wound. I would think there are defenses just salivating for a chance at that passing style of his. They're gonna eat his lunch in the pros. Could be wrong, but I don't think so.....

By: BenDover on 3/29/10 at 9:14

I listen to Fresh Air -- Marketplace -- All Things Considered, etc. on NPR on a regular basis. I also catch Rush when I can because he's freakin' hilairous. Anybody that says it's 'hate speech' simply has not listened to the show. He makes fun of liberals -- that's it. I'm not big on Hannity because he’s simply not as talented as Rush. I used to like Beck but he's pretty much off the deep end these days.

If you get rid of Rush then you've got to get rid of Jon Stewart. If you get rid of Hannity you've got to also do away with Bill Maher. (If you want to talk 'hate speech' Maher is a frothing maniac of hate).

What it all breaks down to though is two societal views. Do we all share in the cost of goverment... or does one group of people pay so that another group benefits? That's the bottom line. Since excessive goverment cannot exist when everyone feels the pain of the cost then the two factions arise... one supporting more and more government and one supporting less and less.

If everyone shares in the cost then reasonable programs that most everyone agree on arise. If a minority of voters pay the majority of taxes (the circumstance we live in today) then government becomes excessive as politicians use other people's money to buy political favor.

The conservative view is not unreasonable and it is not 'hatred'. It is the well reasoned starting point of our great constitutional republic that is being continually eroded mor and more in favor of mob rule.

By: brrrrk on 3/29/10 at 9:22

BenDover said

"If everyone shares in the cost then reasonable programs that most everyone agree on arise. If a minority of voters pay the majority of taxes (the circumstance we live in today) then government becomes excessive as politicians use other people's money to buy political favor."

Just curious, who is this "minority" that you speak of?

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 9:25

Ben, are you suggesting that only Republicans are feeling the pain of "redistributing wealth"? We liberals hate paying taxes too.

Here's the crux of the problem, liberals don't mind paying taxes for "butter". ie. social welfare prorams, but they do mind paying taxes for "guns", ie. the eternal wars. For conseravatives it is just the oppositte.

The irony lies in the fact that the conservatives brag about doing Christ's work on planet earth; apparently their man-god was a warrior, who's coming back real soon, to kick more ass.

No, Jesus was more of a "butter" advocate than an advocate for "guns", to argue otherwise is pure heresy.

By: BenDover on 3/29/10 at 9:29

The top 1% of people who file income taxes in this country earn about 20% of the reported total income but pay about 40% of the total income taxes.

The top 5% of pay almost 60% of the federal income taxes.

The top 50% of earners pay almost 97% of federal income taxes.

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 9:32

Doctor Dover sez: "politicians use other people's money to buy political favor." That is true enough. More importantly, politicians take bribes from self-serving lobbyists and PACs to buy their re-election.

The conservative, Bush-family-appointed SCOTUS has opened the floodgates for corporate spending on politics. It is this sort of "other people's money" that is so dangerous to our democracy. Sadly, Ben Dover and his ilk cannot see where the real danger lies, they seem to be blinded by greed and antipathy.

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 9:35

Awwww! Those poor rich people, should we throw a pity party for the mad dog capitalists? Ben would prefer that the poor pick up the tab for the banquet.

By: brrrrk on 3/29/10 at 9:39

BenDover said

"The top 1% of people who file income taxes in this country earn about 20% of the reported total income but pay about 40% of the total income taxes."

Earn is the operative word here..... What someone makes is not what someone earns. Can you honestly justify someone like CEO Bill McQuire of UnitedHealth Group fame walking away with stock options valued at $1.6 billion.... especially when the game is rigged in the first place?

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 9:41

Tennessee is on the move...sucking up other people's money.

Here's the story: "Race to the Top awards go to Delaware, Tennessee
Washington Post - Nick Anderson - ‎26 minutes ago‎
Delaware and Tennessee won bragging rights Monday as the nation's top education innovators, besting the District and 13 other finalists to claim a share of the $4 billion in President Obama's unprecedented school reform fund. "

Why is my money gonig to MD and TN...BWAHH! Where's my assault rifle?

By: gdiafante on 3/29/10 at 9:44

Isn't the majority of the wealth in this country in the top 1 or 5%?

What this is really about is Ben and others assuming that everyone that is not in that top 5% are trying to get something for nothing.

Actually, it's the other way around. See 2008 financial disaster.

Like I've said before, the peasants are watching what little wealth they ever had erode and erode quickly. Considering how the top earners have ruined the economy all the while getting welfare, I say light the torches.

Oh, sorry. I forgot, it's not welfare when it's the rich/corporations, it's "tax cuts". lol

By: Kosh III on 3/29/10 at 9:44

I guess it was wrong of St Paul to say in II Cor 8 that those with an abundance should give to those who have need.

By: BenDover on 3/29/10 at 9:49

There's little left to give when the goverment steals the money from us at gunpoint, Kosh, and uses it to buy political favor. I do what I can though.

By: Kosh III on 3/29/10 at 9:54

There is plenty to give when the recipients are the military/industrial complex or plutocrats.

Dismantle our empire, reduce the military to a defensive size, stop being the world cop(let the UN do it) and tax everyone fairly---including the rich by eliminating the special exemptions and breaks they get.

How about charging sales tax on stock sales? Why are stock sales not subject to sales tax? If Buffet can afford to pay 33 billion for a railroad, he can afford to pay sales tax on it, just like we have to pay sales tax for a loaf of bread.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/29/10 at 9:55

Ben, you think you're in the top 5%?

By: BenDover on 3/29/10 at 9:55

The problem with the Guns and butter argument is that butter is always taking from one person and giving to another. Everyone can agree we need national defense though we may disagree on how much is necessary.

Tax everyone the same percentage so that everyone feels the pain and then let the guns and butter funded by government find their own level. Let's even throw in a 100% exemption on the first $8K of earnings and a 50% exemption on the next $8K. After that, everyone pays the same rate.

By: BenDover on 3/29/10 at 9:57

Far from it, bn.

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 10:01

Well said, Gd.

Kosh, that's one of the few things that Saul of Tarsus said that actually dovetailed with Chrit's message, instead of perverting it. When they let a former mass-murderer with brain damage write their Testament, the early Christians lost touch with the original message of altruism, personal sacrifice, brotherly love and tolerance. Paul perverted Christ's message to suit his own personal prejudices....the man was one of the first Christian heretics...but instead of beibg burned at the stake, they made stained glass windows featuring his image.

By: brrrrk on 3/29/10 at 10:07

One of the arguments that has been put forth by the right recently in defense of the Supreme Court decision that would allow unlimited spending of corporations during elections is that now they (corporations) can now compete fairly with organizations like unions.

Having said that, consider this. A recent evaluation of unions in this country has shown that if they (unions) were to liquidate all of their current assets, it would roughly total about 6 billion dollars. On the other hand, last year the employees of Goldman Sachs were on average paid bonuses of between 5 and 6 hundred thousand from an accumulated bonus fund of over 23 billion. That being said, it would be possible for JUST the employees of GS to outspend unions (from their bonuses, excluding salaries, and if it was legal) during campaigns at a rate of 3 to 1.... assuming that unions are willing to liquidate every asset in order to support candidates. Is this the type of free speech that our founding fathers had in mind?

By: Kosh III on 3/29/10 at 10:08

The worst heretic was Augustine and the others who supported the Imperium and "just wars."

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 10:08

Ben, when the government buys guns, they use other people's money; i cannot understand why you would argue otherwise. It's always "other people's money" when government gets involved. Butter, Guns and foreign aid---it's all Uncle Sam's money, not ours, or so they tell me. Let Uncle Sam play the role of sure beats the role of Defender of Apartheid Zionism and nuclear menace.

By: brrrrk on 3/29/10 at 10:11

Poor Ben, his color photos all look black and white to him. :-)

By: Loner on 3/29/10 at 10:18

Excellent analysis, Brrrk. Unions are being painted as anti-democratic, corrupt and counter-productive.

We should never forget that the benefits that all workers now enjoy were not handed to them by benevolent robber barons. No,. things like a 40-hr work week, overtime, sick pay, paid vacations are now considered standard procedure, but every one of those bennies was won through collective bargaining, between unions and management. Non-union workers all enjoy the benefits that were secured by organized labor. Those parasitic hourly workers who eschew unions are ignorant ingrates.