Chapter 16: American movement

Sunday, July 24, 2011 at 9:05pm
By Clay Risen Chapter16.org
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Charles Euchner 

Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” speech, which he delivered from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial during the 1963 March on Washington, is widely considered among the greatest speeches in American history and a high point of the civil rights movement. But its deserved fame has long obscured the hundreds of thousands of people who also participated in the march: black teenagers from Alabama, white ministers from Kansas, celebrities from Hollywood, and activists from Harlem, all of them gathered in a peaceful demonstration for equal rights unlike anything ever seen in America. 

In Nobody Turn Me Around: A People’s History of the 1963 March on Washington, newly out in paperback, Charles Euchner, a Chattanooga native and graduate of Vanderbilt University, has written the story of that day from the perspective of these important, if anonymous, participants in the march. 

Chapter 16: Your book is subtitled “A People’s History of the 1963 March on Washington.” What is a “people’s history”?

Charles Euchner: One of my motivations was to recapture the day for the people who made it what it was. We’ve all heard that it was about King’s speech. I love that speech; I’ve probably heard it a hundred times. So I’m not trying to lower King’s role. But there were 250,000 people on the Mall; there were people who were behind the scenes, who made it all work. It wasn’t just one man’s event. In fact, King at first turned down the invitation.

What goes into researching a people’s history that is different from the traditional archives-focused methods?

I did a lot of that traditional archival work: I put in Freedom of Information Act requests; I found diaries and notes of people who were there. But I also interviewed about 120 people. They weren’t easy to find; one way I did it was to start with the many bus sign-up lists I found. Essentially I wanted to know who was there and why. The book is in my voice, but as much as possible I wanted to give the book over to the people who were there. Fundamentally, we have to think about how the civil rights movement revolutionized the nation without war, in ways that elevate us all, and that movement came about because so many people put their lives on the line, opened their homes, risked themselves because they believed in something bigger. King would be the first to say it, would be the first to happily acknowledge that the masses in the trenches made the movement. One of the amazing things about him was that he was constantly learning, and that he was open to learning from below. The Montgomery Bus Boycott, for example, wasn’t originally about desegregating buses, but about equal treatment within the system. But the people at the bottom changed that and broadened it, and King was willing to do the same at the leadership level.

What did you find that surprised you?

The first thing was how different a country it was. Most people in the country were so isolated; we have no idea how locally isolated they were. These days we have the Internet, 500 TV channels, access to any newspaper we want in the world. We can get as much information as we can dream of. In 1963 most people got a skimpy newspaper, full of news on school lunches and Kiwanis Club meetings. Most people didn’t understand the civil rights movement. Most had heard of it, but there was not much direct information. The evening news was only 15 minutes long; CBS was the first network to expand to 30 minutes, which it did that summer. The reason this is so important is that, for the civil rights movement to succeed, the whole nation had to see what a decent, hardworking movement it was. 

When CBS decided to cover it live, and viewers saw sundresses, blacks and whites arm-in-arm, it was the first time the whole country was exposed to the movement. And seeing what they saw, no one could call it an angry movement. It was the first time many had heard King speak. Maybe they’d seen him on Meet the Press. But few had had the opportunity to hear one of his speeches from beginning to end. My belief when I started the book was that the day’s importance was King’s oratory, but when I was done, I realized it was also that people in the Quad Cities of Iowa and in the far districts of California could get a complete look at a movement that was calling them to uphold the nation’s values. The way this day portrayed the movement made it easy for the rest of America to accept it as an all-American movement.

You spent part of your childhood in the South, and you later went to Vanderbilt. Did that Southern connection inform any of your interest in civil rights?

I was born in Chattanooga, though I grew up in Pennsylvania and New York. When I was growing up I was always curious about where I was from, and that’s one reason why I went to Vanderbilt. I was fascinated by the concept of the New South. Jimmy Carter was running for president, as a Southern progressive, and it was a fascinating idea that the South was changing.

I remember as a kid, when my mom pulled out the scrapbook, seeing a brochure from the hospital where I was born, and being struck by the language of “the white ward” and “the colored ward.” I had pneumonia as an infant and had to go back to the hospital, and I always wondered what would have happened if I had been black: Would I have received the same level of care in the colored ward? It made me think about how enduring the legacy of segregation was. I don’t want us to get stuck in the past, but it’s important to understand the legacy of history. When I went to Vanderbilt, one of the great things I experienced was learning to appreciate how complex the South is. It’s often stereotyped, but it’s a beautiful place. In some ways it’s more progressive racially than the rest of the country.

 
To read an uncut version of this interview — and more local book coverage — please visit Chapter16.org, an online publication of Humanities Tennessee.

2 Comments on this post:

By: richgoose on 7/25/11 at 9:07

There is nothing wrong with racial equality as long as each race has a good definition of what is required for equality. When it comes to blacks and whites there are a lot more blacks who do not qualify as equals than there are whites. I often wonder why the blacks that are equal continue to identify with the unequal blacks.

By: Mike Burch on 7/25/11 at 12:11

Richgoose,

A lot depends on what one means by "equal." The Declaration of Independence says that all human beings are "created equal" in terms of basic human rights.

To say that blacks are "unequal" sounds like racism, if you mean that people who don't meet your standards should be denied basic human rights or treated differently in the eyes of the law.

If you think certain achievements makes you superior to other people, how would you compare to Einstein and Gandhi. Do you have a super-high IQ? Have you won a Nobel prize for peace, science or literature?

If you consider yourself "equal," how can you consider other people "unequal"?