Vanderbilt Commodores, Music City Bowl pledge to make marriage of convenience work

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 at 1:22am
By Steven Godfrey, City Paper correspondent
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Scott Ramsey, president of the Nashville Sports Council and CEO of the Music City Bowl (Michael W. Bunch/SouthComm)

 

Little did Vanderbilt quarterback Jordan Rodgers know, but so many hotel reservations hung in the balance on that fourth down.

It was Nov. 10, and the Commodores were down 26-20 with 1:49 remaining on the road at Ole Miss, and facing a 4th-and-2 on their own 48-yard-line. Rodgers rolled right, made a quick check downfield and then fled the pocket to evade No. 33 E.J. Epperson (seen at left) and a disastrous sack. With some steam behind him, the Commodore quarterback dove for what would be ruled a first down after review.

Commodore fans exhaled. The Rebel faithful would later howl with contempt over the official’s spot. Four plays later Rodgers hit a wide-open Chris Boyd down the left sideline for a touchdown with just 52 seconds on the clock, and Vanderbilt would go on to win 27-26. 

The win was Vandy’s third conference road win in a single year, a feat previously unthinkable before the arrival of head-coach-turned-resurrection-specialist James Franklin. Needless to say, nobody in Nashville or Oxford was thinking about hotel rooms, save for maybe Scott Ramsey, the CEO and president of the Nashville Sports Council and the man in charge of the Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl.

If you think fantasy football confuses your Sunday rooting interests, it’s nothing on Ramsey’s partisan plight as a bowl CEO.

“My close buddies, they kind of look at me weird on Saturdays, because I’m watching games that aren’t necessarily the marquee games, and I’m watching how other games are impacting other conferences, and in the early part of the year I’m usually rooting for a team I end up rooting against,” he said.

Ramsey wouldn’t reveal whom he was pulling for that night, but he was certainly watching. The then 5-4 Commodores earned their sixth win of the year under James Franklin, thus clinching consecutive bowl berths for Vandy for the first time since polio was cured. Meanwhile, then 5-4 Ole Miss dropped to .500 under first-year head coach Hugh Freeze. 

Both schools would finish strong — Vandy at a historic 8-4 (5-3 in the SEC) and the Rebels at 6-6 by breaking a three-year skid against rival Mississippi State, who also finished 8-4. 

After some conjecture — Jacksonville’s Gator Bowl? Atlanta’s Chick-fil-A Bowl? — Vanderbilt ended up making a date with the Music City to face North Carolina State out of the Atlantic Coast Conference. It’s Vandy’s second three-mile “trip” to downtown, following Bobby Johnson’s “miracle” 6-6 season of 2008 that ended with a win over Boston College at LP Field.

It’s not an ideal pairing. Bowls are designed to generate revenue for themselves first and their cities second. The grist of that mill? Blocs of energized out-of-town fans eager to spend money in hotels, restaurants and bars for a few days leading up to kickoff. 

This year the bowl will move back from a prime-time slot pre-New Year’s Eve to an early kickoff on Dec. 31, allowing fans to make a holiday trip out of the event and stay through Jan. 1. But with the Commodores, the Music City Bowl gets only half the tourism power it expected. With the Music City Bowl, the Commodores don’t get the idyllic bowl trip to Florida or Texas that some 8-win clubs will enjoy.

Enter Franklin, a positive man in a profession of positive-minded men who still seems to earn notice for his unbridled optimism about heading down West End and over the Cumberland. He’s formulated a marketing strategy (a lofty public call for 55,000 Vanderbilt fans to attend the game) and flatly denies any feeling of a letdown among his players.

“Not one bit. Honestly, talking with our guys I never sensed [a letdown]. We’re still at a point in our program where we’re appreciative of going to play and participate in the postseason. More importantly, we get to stay together as a family and as a team,” Franklin said.

“A lot of times, that team that wins the bowl is the team that’s excited to play in the game. The only bad bowl is the one you’re not playing in.”

 

About Rodgers’ first down: Had the spot been a few inches back, or had he thrown an incompletion, Ole Miss would’ve almost certainly hung on and won, giving both teams a 7-5 record. That’s important here only because of an unwritten rule — the “gentlemen’s agreement” among bowls partnered with the SEC — that a team with two more wins will not be passed over in favor of a team with a worse record but a potentially stronger fan base to fill seats, bars and hotels.

Partially because they’d already honky-tonked here last year, 8-4 Mississippi State became an ideal candidate for the Gator Bowl. Vandy had a matching record, but the Gator was also lined up to select Northwestern from the Big 10, a team the Commodores had already faced this season (another unwritten rule of bowl selection). That left the ’Dores and Rebels, with Ole Miss being considered a hotter commodity because of their recent season-ending rivalry win and a return to the postseason for the first time since 2009. And with a 230-mile distance from Oxford to Music City, those fans would need a hotel room.

So while no one’s saying it, Vanderbilt and the Music City Bowl weren’t star-crossed over one another. One Vanderbilt official, speaking anonymously, would only say the pairing “isn’t ideal.”

“It’s a great event they put on, and we’re happy to be there, absolutely, but I think we both know each side would rather have had another situation,” said the official.

Bowls are a bizarre business, an impossible-to-determine structure of third parties that NCAA football lends out its biggest and best properties to. While the NCAA handles — and benefits from — the postseason for every other sport, the bowls are outside business entities with particular priorities. 

Not only that, until the adoption of the maligned and soon-to-be-replaced BCS in 1998, every bowl was in competition with one other. That routinely created a sacrifice of game quality — the two best possible football teams available — for schools with strong track records of ticket buying and traveling.

“The entire process is illogical, so it’s impossible to try and apply logic to one particular area,” said Dan Wetzel, author of Death To The BCS: The Definitive Case Against The Bowl Championship Series.

“Bowls are subcontractors. Because the NCAA doesn’t control the system, because there is no centralized control, there’s no uniform opinion on what’s important or what’s best for a school like Vanderbilt. And one of your major fears if you’re Vanderbilt or Northwestern is that no matter if these schools are successful, any ‘big-time program’ could be put ahead of them without merit.”

In other words: Now that they’re a regular at this postseason thing, it’s imperative that Vandy not only win, but win more than anyone else in consideration, because in the current bowl format, any “traditional power” that would’ve finished 7-5 this season would likely have stolen the Commodores’ spot. Why? A still-lingering perception of “same old Vanderbilt,” only this time applying to thin numbers of lackluster fans.

Or to be blunt — that was a really important first down.

Ramsey doesn’t put up a front. The stated goal of the Sports Council and the bowl is to take a normally low-traffic tourism weekend in Nashville, create a match-up that generates ticket sales, local business and TV ratings to spotlight its title sponsor, Franklin American Mortgage. And to their second point, Vandy is a tough draw for local watering holes and restaurants already hurting from the NHL lockout. By the time NC State and Vandy kick off, downtown will have missed out on the revenue from 20 preseason and regular season Predators home games canceled by hockey’s labor dispute.

“Certainly we share that pain and frustration,” Ramsey said regarding the NHL lockout. “I think we all as a city are aware of the positive impact the Predators have had on and off the ice, and certainly filling up buildings downtown.”

Ramsey said the Nashville Sports Council doesn’t track specific reservations, but based on surveys and feedback, 10 to 12 area hotels are filled for at least two nights each year because of the game. He said no local businesses have aired any kind of frustration in the bowl not providing two out-of-town fan bases.

“Even though we’ve had [Vanderbilt] twice, that’s probably not the model that we set up to do year in, year out. However, occasionally it’s the right time to do it and the right thing to do. The selection process doesn’t really give you a lot of alternatives.”

 

Things could be considerably worse for both parties. To Wetzel’s point, big-time BCS bowls outside of the national championship game are struggling. As of press time, mighty Florida is set to face Louisville in the pretty-much-meaningless Sugar Bowl, and the Gators were being outsold 14,000 to 6,500 by the Cardinals, according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

Some rooms at Opryland might go unsold, but Vanderbilt has already sold 17,000 tickets. That’s still a stadium short of Franklin’s lofty 55K aim, but well past the Music City Bowl’s 12,000-ticket allotment for SEC teams. 

Ramsey anticipates another late buying surge, as a stronger walkup from local Vandy fans and local curiosity from unaffiliated but curious residents are the less-publicized benefit to hosting a local school. And while the final score has little if any effect on VU football’s long-term plans, to Franklin it’s another crucial chance to win back — or maybe win for the first time — a distracted city filled with rival fans.

Blame the growth of Nashville and Middle Tennessee, but don’t look now if you’re a black-and-gold diehard, because this city is filling with rival SEC fan bases. That cohort of Mississippi State Bulldogs that occupied Lower Broad for the better part of three days? Among non-Mississippi alumni chapters, Nashville ranks sixth in the country for MSU, with 1,870 alumni in the area.

“It’s growing fast, too. We’re excited to have so many Bulldogs in the area; it’s going to continue to be a great city for MSU fans,” MSU alumni chapter coordinator Michael Richardson said.

Ole Miss — an annual Vandy opponent — might’ve been 6-6 on the field, but among non-Mississippi alumni chapters, Music City’s Rebels (2,935) rank behind only Atlanta, Houston and Birmingham for the most Ole Miss alumni nationwide. 

Of the SEC schools that responded to requests for alumni statistics, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia and Kentucky all had Nashville alumni chapters they ranked in their top 5 to 10 in size for out-of-state groups nationwide, and Florida’s roughly 1,700 Music City alums is in their top 15. Plus, you can’t forget the estimated 22,111 Volunteer alumni in Davidson and Williamson counties alone. 

Forget the old idea of Vanderbilt living in a Big Orange shadow — it’s the entire conference color palette washing over black-and-gold. 

“That’s always going to be a challenge for us,” admitted Franklin. “For right now, I’m OK with this, but when I first got here I had to swallow the fact that we aren’t everybody’s No. 1, but we can be at least everybody’s No. 2. There are a lot of people that have moved to this city and have their allegiances, but they can support us 11 weeks a year rather than fly back to some other town every weekend.”

Such an admission is a rounding of sharp edges for Franklin, who from his first day as head coach at VU has lobbied strongly — and loudly — for Vanderbilt fans both on-campus and off to join with Nashville residents with or without affiliation with Vanderbilt to join in and support the ’Dores. 

Look at any post-game press conference from Franklin, win or lose, and you’ll almost always find a comment in his opening remarks either commending the atmosphere at an opponent’s stadium or complimenting the number of fans a visiting SEC team has brought to Vanderbilt Stadium. 

This year’s much publicized Thursday night home opener against South Carolina on ESPN served as the de facto inaugural game of the entire 2012 college football season, but it failed to sell out. So while
no one’s admitting any hesitation, you could see why the decidedly for-profit bowl structure would hesitate to grab the Commodores.

In essence, Franklin’s vision for the program gets one more crack this season at a chance to energize Nashville. 

“This isn’t something that gets solved in six months to a year. We’re always going to be in a city that’s filled with people that have moved here from somewhere else. But you support your hometown teams, and there’s a group here that have done that their whole lives. I was the type of guy, growing up in Philly, that was an Eagles/Sixers/Phillies/Flyers guy. I’ve never understood bandwagon fans.”

If the Commodores are less than ideal on paper, Franklin’s public stumping to become “Nashville’s team” is certainly something the Sports Council has been able to rally around. Having already sold through their allotment, Vandy continues a perfect streak for SEC teams — according to Ramsey, the Music City Bowl is now 14-for-14 in 15 years for selling out the SEC allotment for teams (the 2005 game featured Virginia vs. Minnesota). 

By comparison, only three non-SEC schools have sold out their ticket allotment in 15 years — the decidedly SEC-ish regional trio of Clemson, Virginia Tech and West Virginia. NC State enters the game after a lackluster year that moved them to fire head coach Tom O’Brien, and Ramsey said the Wolfpack have not yet sold their allotment. 

There’s no question that the bowl is pinning its appeal at the box office and the remote control on the Commodores, and there’s no concern about it, said Ramsey:

“One of our key missions is to hopefully fill up our downtown and hotels with a lot of out-of-towners during the week, obviously that’s a different kind of challenge when you have a local team. I think Vanderbilt’s doing a great job reaching out to their national alumni base to help us meet that objective, which we realize is a little hard to achieve with a local team. However, the opportunity to fill the stadium up and create an unbelievable game day environment for the players? We’ve got a great chance to do that this year given what Vanderbilt has accomplished and created this year.” 

 

 

 

 

The idiot’s guide to the SEC bowl selection process

Confused as to how the Commodores ended up in Nashville, or why your favorite team isn’t somewhere sunny and warm? Here’s our best explanation, in order of which bowls pick first.

A note on payouts: As you’ll notice, the ranking of each bowl does not align with the payout (all figures are published estimates) given to each SEC school participating. That’s considered a non-issue, because each school sends their payout to the SEC, which pools the total payout of all member bowl appearances and distributes it evenly to all 14 institutions.

1. The BCS Bowls: At least until 2014 when the playoff system arrives, the national championship and BCS bowls (the Rose, Sugar, Fiesta and Orange) get first crack at the SEC. In most years this includes not only the national title game ($18 million payout), but at least one other school as an at-large. For example, Alabama will play in the national title game this season, while Florida will face Louisville in the Sugar Bowl ($17 million payout).

2. Capital One Bowl (Citrus Bowl, Orlando, Fla. Payout: $4.55 million): Almost always the home for the loser of the SEC Championship game, as is the case this season with Georgia.

3a. AT&T Cotton Bowl Classic (Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, Texas. Payout: $7.25 million)

3b. Outback Bowl (Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, Fla. Payout: $6.8 million): There’s a loose agreement between the Cotton and Outback to each take the highest available team from the SEC West and East divisions, respectively (Texas A&M and South Carolina this season). This isn’t always the case, but it makes the most sense for each bowl’s geography.

5. Chick-fil-A Bowl (Georgia Dome, Atlanta, Ga. Payout: $2.95 million)

6. TaxSlayer.com Gator Bowl (Everbank Field, Jacksonville, Fla. Payout: $7 million)

7. Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl (Nashville, Tenn., Payout: $3.5 million): Considered to be the last pick of the “good bowls,” the Music City routinely gets SEC schools with 6-8 win records, usually on the upswing. While the bowl’s not at the top of the pecking order, this position often produces larger ticket sales because of excitement. The Commodores fell to the Music City slot after LSU and Mississippi State were chosen, in that order.

8a. BBVA Compass Bowl (Legion Field, Birmingham, Ala. Payout: $900K)

8b. AutoZone Liberty Bowl (Liberty Bowl, Memphis, Tenn., Payout: $1.7 million): The SEC considers the Compass and Liberty to be unofficially “equal.” Because the Compass Bowl hasn’t featured a SEC team in two seasons, they got priority over the Liberty this season. The Compass took Ole Miss, while the Liberty took Iowa State from the Big 12.

10. Advocare V100 Independence Bowl (Independence Stadium, Shreveport, La. Payout: 1.1 million): The famous dead-last destination once sponsored by Poulan Weedeater gets whatever’s left over in the SEC. This season the conference only produced nine teams (two in the BCS, seven in partnered bowls), so the Independence will feature nearby Louisiana-Monroe taking on Ohio. 

—Steven Godfrey

 

18 Comments on this post:

By: fightcrib on 12/26/12 at 2:15

It's an abomination that Vanderbilt ended up in the mediorcre-ass Music City Bowl. Everyone in the country knows this is a joke. Even Muslim extremists in Egypt are talking about Vanderbilt's bowl selection. What a joke this is!

Fightcrib, BNA

By: morriscat on 12/26/12 at 9:46

This article reeks with an anti-Vandy agenda. It is as if the author wanted Vandy to loose to Ole Miss so they could help the retailers of Nashville. The author is also attempting to undermine Franklin's positive attitude by implying 55k Vandy fans to the MSB is a ridiculously figure. Given that at least 42k have already bought tickets, there is nothing remotely ridiculous about 55k.

Nothing is going to stop Vandy's momentum, especially a well known liberal paper with a never-ending negative outlook on life.

By: pipecarver on 12/26/12 at 10:31

The fact that Vanderbilt has ended the season on a positive note is an accomplishment in itself. I am proud of our local team, the players, and the coaching staff. Some individuals consider Vanderbilt's selection to The Music CIty Bowl as a negative. Many of our local businesses, especially hotels, are probably feeling the same way. But all is not lost....yet.

Support our local team and our local businesses, just as you would any Sunday Titans football game. Take your family to town, have a nice meal at a local restaurant, and purchase tickets to the game.

For those fans who would otherwise not have the funds to travel: You no longer have an excuse. You no longer have to pay for expensive plane tickets, car rentals, and overinflated hotel bills in other cities. Drive into town, purchase your ticket, and support your team.

True fans support their team, regardless of the venue. The "wait till next year" phrase needs to go into retirement. We are at the dawn of a new era in Vanderbilt Football. The more support we show, the more Vanderbilt will invest in the team's future.

Signed-
A Disgusted Former Vols Fan

By: Specter47 on 12/26/12 at 11:47

Hey, pipecarver,,, "True fans support their team, regardless of the venue" is a restructuring of another sentence, "True fans support their team, regardless of the record", like Vandy fans have done over the years. They have supported Vanderbilt football no matter how badly the team sucked. How pathetic the team was never stopped a Vandy fan from supporting their wretched team. Now THAT is a fan. I submit that you were NEVER a Vol fan, given your signature. This very temporary rise in the quality of Vanderbilt football will soon end. And Tennessee's will improve very soon. Then, if you really are a UT fan, you'll be back as if you had never left. We may be disgusted Vols fans, but 99% of us will never be "former" Vols fans.

Coach Franklin will NEVER get 55,000 Vandy fans at LP Field. He can't even fill that pathetic Dudley Field, and they have just over 39,000 seats! I venture to say that there aren't even 55, 000 Vandy fans in the Nashville area.

Have a nice day, pipecarver. And best of luck to the North Carolina State Wolfpack. Welcome to Nashville!

By: localboy on 12/26/12 at 12:13

"Even Muslim extremists in Egypt are talking about Vanderbilt's bowl selection." Interesting admission of your conversations with extremists, fightcrib. If you get fuzzy reception on New Year's Day, just chalk it up to the van parked down the street...;)

By: 4gold on 12/26/12 at 12:45

Born in Nashville. As a 12 yr. old mowing grass for money I went to local stores looking for a Vandy shirt to wear to the game Sat. By the time I went to several stores and only found UT garbage my mother took me out of the store for shoving the UT shirts off the shelf. I have never understood why Nashvlle doesnt support its own teams. Doesnt make sense to me. Spend your money where you have to pay taxes and help yourself out. Quit spending your sports dollars elsewhere. Vanderbilt's sports program is out performing half the SEC schools and firmly in the middle. People just dont give them credit for doing as well as they are.

As for UT? Jones is a Coach Dookie Clone. White man headed for faceplant. I went to one game in knoxville to see what the hub bub was. You could not pay me to go back to that dump. Follow the ants, cant see the ball you are so far away. Removed from game. What a DUD. Give me Vandys little gem any day. Great view any where in the stadium. In case you have not traveled. UT is by far the ugliest campus in the SEC.

Go Dores, Preds, Titans! Go Nashville a great place to live!

By: CrimesDown on 12/26/12 at 1:57

4gold...In some ways I feel like you but..........as a nine year old I started attending Vandy basketball games. The following year I attended my first football game. It became obvious over the next 40 years that the university itself didn't support the football team. I attended football games, almost every home game and a few away games. I tried harder than most to believe in the football program.

After 20 years, it became obvious that I cared more about the football team than the university did. I still hoped things would get better but I stopped attending games. I decided that until Vanderbilt showed they cared at least as much as I did, I was going to stick with Vandy basketball. I watched the first year after they hired James Franklin and he has made me a believer again. It looked like Vanderbilt had made a commitment to it's football program. I am attending football games again.

When I see the first sign that Vanderbilt has tried to pull the wool over our eyes, I will be done forever. I'm not talking about a losing season either. I'm talking about the university continuoing to give the same amount of effort that the players give.

By: straycat on 12/26/12 at 3:16

No wonder this guy has an Ole Miss slant...he graduated from there! He also does a show called Reb Sports Radio.

What a homer.

By: Godfrey on 12/26/12 at 4:25

Thanks for reading, StrayCat and morriscat (not sure what the "Cat" vibe is). I did graduate from the University of Mississippi and I do appear occasionally on radio in that area.

As for your claims of bias, this might help balance your claims. Or not, I don't really care. But thanks for reading!

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/23/2579761/vanderbilt-football-2011-james-franklin

By: morriscat on 12/26/12 at 4:26

Hey Specter47,

42k tickets to Vandy fans were sold as of last week. You and the Big mouth orange are all bark and no bite. Does anybody on earth think your going to beat Alabama or Florida any time soon? And i hear your school is going broke. Obama must be running the budget office over there. And what about that Yankee coach you hired. How is going to recruit against the big boys with all that drama going on. Have you checked Rivals lately. The Big mouth orange has reached its pinnacle and is now in decline. More and more middle Tennesseans don't give a blank about the University of East Tennessee.

By: PKVol on 12/27/12 at 9:39

As a 26 year resident of Nashville and an on-again, off-again season ticket holder at Vandy - basketball (Men's), football and baseball, I can certainly see that the commitment at the upper levels of Vandy's administration is at an a high over the time frame I am familiar with (anything is better than the Wyatt / Houlihan regime).

Having said this, the fan following for Vandy's football games is still attrocious. Many fans still leave early, even in competitive games (and I'm talking half time, not with 3:00 left in the game). A large part of its ticket-base is staff, who can purchase season tickets at half-price and "family-plan" tickets which are heavily discounted. I will disagree about Vanderbilt Stadium being "a little gem", obviously, you don't bother to go to the restroom or concessions during the more highly attended games, nor do you have a seat lower than row 25. While you are close to the action, sight lines are lousy in most of the stadium.

I think Vandy will draw well for the MCB, the stadium is comfortable with good sight lines and adequate restroom and concession facilities (provided there are enough volunteer organizations to staff the concessions). It is a relatively cheap tickets (especially the 4 tix + parking for $99 offer that the Bowl game offered).

As a fan of Nashville, I would have much preferred Ole Miss in this game. They would have brought more out of town visitors, spent more money and the fan base much more excited about being here than the Vandy fan base. This would have happened with both at 7-5. Still 50,000+ for a mid-level (it is what it is - but far from mediocre) bowl game. There are many, many bowls who would love to average 50,000+ (75% of capacity) for their games.

By: Jughead on 12/27/12 at 11:02

I cannot afford to attend these events. I pay my mortgage instead. I hate everything.

By: PKVol on 12/27/12 at 11:30

Happy New Year to you Jughead, may your prosperity exceed your attitude. In other words, may you get more than you deserve!

By: morriscat on 12/27/12 at 11:42

"PKVOL"

When do your Tennessee Vols plan on downsizing their stadium, After all, they averaged well below capacity this year. As for Vandy, why are you Vol fans so concerned about our rising fan base? If you or any Vol fan doubt the rising numbers then I suggest you attend the MCB and see for yourself. Their will be a minimum of 50k Vandy fans there.That my friend is real progress. And with James Franklin as coach, watch those numbers grow.

By: Jughead on 12/27/12 at 12:24

@PKVol: The sight of orange makes me puke. Knoxville makes me want to overdose on heroin. I got splashed by pisswater the last time I urinated at Thompson Bowling, and I still smell.

I hate my job. My dog is old and craps on the floor every morning. My house, car, and wife all leak. The nightly news actually cheers me up. I may have radon in my basement, and my son is a sissy.

Love puddles.

By: topsman97 on 12/27/12 at 3:20

It makes me laugh every time I read a UT fan's attempt to predict Vandy's football future.

Exhibit A: Many UT fans predicted that James Franklin was an immediate failure before he even stepped to the podium for his first press conference.

Exhibit B: UT fans predicted Ut fans would not never lose any recruits to Vandy that UT wanted. Brian Kimbrow and Adrew Jelks both commited to Vandy.

Exhibit C : Then Ut predicted that Vandy recruiting class would fall apart it...and It never did.

Exhibit D: A lot of UT fans predicted they would crush Vandy last year. Okay Ut did win the game, so I have to give you credit for that, but the game went to OT. That doesn't sound like UT crushed anybody.

Exhibit E: Then there was the prediction that Vandy would not go the bowl game in Franklin's first year. Vandy went bowling while UT lost to UK.

Exhibit F: Once again, UT fans predicted Vandy do poorly in recruiting. Well, so far they are wrong. To be fair, National Signing Day is still 40 days away and something crazy could still happen. Rigth now, Ut fans will probably get that predicition wrong, just like last year.

Exhibit G: A lot of UT fans predicted 2-4 wins for Vand, while predicting 8-9 wins for the Vawls. LMAO. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Wow, you guys really screwed that one up.

Exhibit H: There were a few idiot fans that believed Vandy would lose to UT this year. To be fair, most rational UT fans didn't think UT was going to win, but that some Ut fans will determined to go down with the ship on that prediction. Again, another prediction gone very wrong for the people stupid enough the make that prediction.

Exhibit I: Most Ut fans predicted that Ut would occupy over half Vanderbilt Stadium . Didn't happen. 75% of the fans were wearing the beautiful Black and Gold that night.

Now, Specter47 is predicting " This very temporary rise in the quality of Vanderbilt football will soon end". He's also predictiing that "Coach Franklin will NEVER get 55,000 Vandy fans at LP Field. He can't even fill that pathetic Dudley Field, and they have just over 39,000 seats!"

Really, Specter. How about providing the evidence to support your predictions? Your fanbase has already made a bunch of lousy Vandy predictions that have gone down in flames. Let me guess. You're going to remind us of our history, like that will somehow put us in our place and restore world order? Go ahead, give us another history lesson. We'll just ignore you like every other person that has tried to remind us our football history. We don't care...James Franklin, the staff, administration, the players, the fans...none of us care how about how bad we were. What matters is now and that our future looks bright.

Go ahead, make your predictions. It'll make you look like an even bigger fool once you're proven wrong.

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By: fightcrib on 12/27/12 at 3:51

You hate your job??

Why does everyone hate working at Dave and Buster's?

By: Jughead on 12/27/12 at 4:08

Ah, the hell with it. I'm quitting my job and going on welfare. I hope Obamacare pays for my Xanax. I love American welfare. Time to apply for disability too.