Young’s status for Chargers still iffy

Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 1:45am

Tennessee Titans starting quarterback Vince Young said that his injured right quadriceps muscle is feeling better, but coach Jeff Fisher added that if the team’s playoff game against the San Diego Chargers had been played Wednesday that Young likely would not have been able to play.

Asked if Young could have played in a game Wednesday, Fisher replied, “I don’t think so.”

Young also revealed that the quadriceps injury was actually an aggravation of the original injury he suffered in Tampa Bay back on Oct. 14. That injury forced him to miss the Titans’ 38-36 victory in Houston.

“It never, never, never fully healed,” Young said of the injury. “It’s getting better, then I’d get an injury bump, but overall, I feel like the progress is really good right now.”

Young returned to the Tennessee lineup on Oct. 28 and had not missed any more time with the injury until tweaking it against the Colts in the Titans’ 16-10 playoff-clinching victory Sunday night.

Young indicated after the game that he first re-aggravated the injury in the first quarter, then hurt it again in the third quarter, when he called for assistance from the trainers. Backup quarterback Kerry Collins finished the game for Tennessee and directed the Titans to three Rob Bironas field goals to pull out the victory.

Young was a limited participant in Wednesday’s practice, splitting time with Collins. Fisher said it was important for Young to be involved in some practice work during the week.

“It’s day to day. It’s too hard to make a decision right now,” Fisher said. “We’ll try to get both of them ready to play. He was able to participate in some practice, and that’s essential. We’ll keep him involved on the practice field this week.”

Young, who said he believes he will play on Sunday, said the onus is on him to get as much treatment as possible leading up to the game.

“I really feel like I’m a fast healer,” Young said. “It’s all about myself getting my butt up early in the morning and getting to rehab and things like that. And any time there’s a break from us doing position meetings, going to the training room.”

He was also quizzed about the possibility the injury limited his ability to scramble, but he dismissed that notion with a laugh, saying, “I guess not. I’ve been playing on it since I’ve been hurting. Whatever it takes to win a ballgame, that’s what I’m going to do.”

Collins, who celebrated his 35th birthday with Sunday’s win over Indianapolis, is ready if needed. He added that the added reps throughout the week can only help.

“My preparation won’t be any different, other than I might get some reps this week. From a mental, playbook standpoint, it’s not going to change a whole lot. I’ll prepare as hard as I can and whatever my role is during the week, we’ll see how it pans out.”

As far as the Chargers’ game plans changing depending on which quarterback is in the game, Collins said there will be subtle differences.

“I usually see more coverages and those types of things. For some reason, they don’t spy me as much,” he joked.

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By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

Who says he is going into the off-season after this week? If VY is healthy enough, he still gives us our best chance to win. Kerry was good against the second and third string but I don't like the idea of him starting. Now if VY can't go, then we have no choice and I will hope for a miracle.

By: producer2 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

Actually Frank the team is 18-14 and Vince as a starter is 17-11 during that time frame.

By: BigPapa on 12/31/69 at 6:00

The way it sounds the titans will barley have enough starters to field a team. Their chances were slim, but now it's slim to none.

By: frank brown on 12/31/69 at 6:00

Producer2, You are correct. An even better point!!

By: junebugfan on 12/31/69 at 6:00

producer2,In response to your post yesterday, if you would have actually read & absorbed ANY of my posts, you would see that I have never had anything but praise for VY. I would MUCH rather have him than Collins on the field Sunday. What I said is that judging by Fisher's comments, he is probably NOT going to be available and Collins WILL be our starter. (Although I'm a little more optimistic after today's article.) I have NEVER blamed VY, unlike many who post here, I have actually praised his progress in his short amount of time, and have reminded others here how much better he is now than Peyton was in his first couple of years, and of how Brady, Romo, etc. have had the luxury, unlike VY, of standing on the sidelines and learning for a couple of years first. I was only pointing out the that this team could be much better with the talent they DO have, if not for a stubborn refusal to be adaptable by the head coach, the conservative nature of the head coach, and the relentless predictability & poor situational play calling by the head coach for years on end, regardless of who the O.coordinator "puppet" may be at the time. BTW - what are YOU saying about Gage, (who BTW had 104yds receiving Sunday) & Williams? Are you saying that they are no good, as you have IMPLIED that I said about VY & McNair?? Who's to say that they wouldn't be stars in Bellichick or Dungy's system? If they aren't any good, who's responsible for scouting & drafting all of these so called "mediocre" receivers that Fisher has historically blamed for "not getting open"? Doesn't some of that responsibility have to fall with Fisher, ultimately? Why is it we never have drafted or signed a "Welker, Gonzales, or Wayne?" Must be just bad luck for 13 years, huh? Face the facts, you just can't go THAT long without finding a great receiver. Either we can't develop them, we can't scout them, or our system won't ALLOW the ones we have to shine. BTW - why do think Stallworth turned down our offer to come back to Tennessee and play with a super star QB that was all the rage during the off season? Could it be that he thought he would be more productive in Bill's SYSTEM?

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

jbf, I don't know why you are so down on Fisher. I have heard some national media say that Fisher would be a close second for head coach of the year.

By: junebugfan on 12/31/69 at 6:00

You're giving the media a lot of credit there. Whomever said that made a very broad, generalized statement. I was making some specific points about his coaching style that are hard to dispute. The only broad statement I will make about him is that he is an average coach, with an average all time record to prove it. I just get tired of everyone coming on here and blaming this player or that player, and saying our receivers s..k year after year, after year, instead of placing the blame on the one, unchanging constant. It's like everyone in Nashville is brainwashed by his smug, arrogant press conferences and believes that same old "keep it close and find a way to win" rederick time and again. I bet those media comments you refered to didn't come in the wake of any of the games this year in which we had early leads, went into coast mode and lost, nor in the game where we had four third and 1-2yds and called a pass play each time, when White had been running on the opponent at will, nor after the San Diego game when he called that horribly predictable sequence in OT at our own 2yd line. If I recall correctly, the in-game media comment about his play calling immediately following that wasn't exactly full of glowing praise.

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

I'll bet you support that stupid website, fire coach fisher .com. thank goodness you are in the minority. I was just listening to 106.7 the fan and Mike Tirico of espn just said he would probably be his choice for coach of the year.

By: TRHJR on 12/31/69 at 6:00

The Titans chance of a playoff win this Sunday, is not with Young ! Collins is the better Q B at this point... ie sunday a the colts.... NOW VINCE YOUNG ALSO PLAYED AGAINST THE COLTS SECOND AND THRID TEAM DEFENCE... SO STOP TR`EN TO BE SUCH AN APOLOGIST OR ( A-- KISSER)FOR YOUNG...RIGHT NOW HE IS THE FUTURE... BUT THE GUY NEEDS TO START SHOWING SOME GRIT, AND TOUGH-NEST....THIS CAT IS 24 YEARS OLD... HE NEEDS TO GROW UP

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

He played as well as Collins did. That opening drive was not against second and third stringers.

By: gdiafante on 12/31/69 at 6:00

It may have been the first string Titan, but it was pretty obvious that the Colts were disinterested in the game. They have revenge on their mind (Patriots).I would rather see Collins play. He's the better passer and has experience. Vince is too soft.

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

If VY is healthy, he is much more of a threat. This won't be Indy's second and third string coming after KC. The chargers will get to Kerry and put him out of the game. We need to hope VY is healthy.

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

It is also suppose rain heavily Friday and Saturday and still 60% chance on Sunday and windy. It looks like whoever has the best running game will be the key. LT is more of a cut back runner and might not have a great day. We need for Lendale to be healthy so he can bust through the middle.

By: producer2 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

jbf,We are not and will not be the Colts or the Patriots, it is simply not the system we run. However much you want our team to change their stripes it is not going to happen. That said if you follow the paper at all you would have seen a story (and maybe you did) that discussed how the offense has been kept simple in an effort to help VY learn how to do things he has not had to do in the past. He is still learning and when the apprenticeship is complete I am sure they will turn him loose a bit more. What I am saying about Gage is he is a nice receiver but no where the talent of the ones I mentioned in my previous post. This should also point out to you as it does most national media what a great job Fisher has done with young, unproven, and limited talent. I know you are a football fan so I am sure yourealize that defense still wins championships and how soon we forget that the 1999 team came so close to stopping the juggernaut offense of all time in the Super Bowl. The defense is slowly coming back into form and the offense will follow but all the experts can't be wrong when they say a healthy Young is better than Collins and Fisher is one of the best coaches in football.

By: gdiafante on 12/31/69 at 6:00

Yes they can. It's not like the media has ever overhyped someone before either.If consistently having a mediocre team and playing only to keep it close in the end makes you a great coach, than Fisher is great.But he will NEVER win the Super Bowl. Book it.

By: TRHJR on 12/31/69 at 6:00

T 1 ... uh... what kind of threat ? These defencive coordinaters have VY `s number...and the dude hasn`t done anything to change their minds... D--- by his own addmission... He hung # 80 Scaife out to get his bell rung...but his ol liver took the shot... if V Young can`t run... what can he do ??? Now that the wheather is going to be a factor... Whats Jeffe-poo gonna do ? Oh I know run,run run...Man what an idea.... # 92 has got to control the game....

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

TRHJR, VY was having a very good game against Indy before he got hurt. You and gdiafante are very much in the minority on what VY can do and on your view of coach Fisher. TRHJR, you are more interested in trying to be funny, and you are not BTW, than posting something with insight. Teams would be firing head coaches to get Fisher if he was available.

By: junebugfan on 12/31/69 at 6:00

THJR, excellent point. Unfortunately, our D lives & dies on 92. when he plays well, 93 is a beast. If 92's not in, they double up 93 and we get NO pressure. Don't have to remind anyone what he does for the run D. TITAN1, no, I actually didn't even know that website existed, but I wouldn't "support" it as that would be pointless. You put WAY too much stock in the media. Tirico has never done anything but praise everyone. He's kinda' like one of those Teletubbie things. Besides, media personalities just recycle statements that they here other media people saying, and don't be so sure about your "minority" statement. Almost every Titans fan I know feels that Fisher hasn't gotten the results out of this franchise that he should have. producer2, you are absolutely right - as long as Fisher is here, the system will NEVER change. Drives home my point about Jeff's lack of adaptability. I don't dispute what you say about him "dumbing down" the offense for Vince. Problem is, Fisher's offense has ALWAYS been dumbed down, with the exception of the year when Heimerdinger and Volek were lighting it up but couldn't win because of an injury decimated defense, and Jeff made sure both of those guys got the h..l out of town because they didn't want to play his back yard scheme of offense. You say defense wins championships - that's beginning to come under question in this age of the NFL. Scoring more points than your opponent wins championships, regardless of how you accomplish it. How quickly we also forget that in that 99 SB game you referenced, we played "Fisher Ball" until we got too far behind to keep running Eddie for two yards constantly, then Jeff had no choice but to allow Steve to open things up and be more dynamic, and we came storming back. Unfortunately it was too late. In that example,you really helped to solidify my point about Fisher's conservative nature and refusal to adapt. If he would have untied Steve's hands much earlier, we would have had a very good chance of winning that game in regulation. Of course, he didn't. He stubbornly stuck to his guns, and 53 guys were robbed of their chance at a ring.

By: producer2 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

I am not sure what you consider mediocre but 72-72 over the past 9 seasons since they moved into the coliseum would be better than half of the teams in the NFL. the Titans are 82-61 during that time a tad bit better than mediocre. No one is New England right now so that is not your measuring stick. Sure you want to be there but how many are? Indy has had a great run recently, very similar to ours from 1999-2003 but it won't last forever and we are ramping up for a new run of our own.

By: gdiafante on 12/31/69 at 6:00

Similar? They DID win the Super Bowl.

By: junebugfan on 12/31/69 at 6:00

"Teams would be firing their coaches to get Jeff..." Yet another tired, popular completely unsubstantiated media quote being recirculated once again. Where is your evidence of that being even REMOTELY true?? What owner made that statement to get the rumor started? "I tell you what, i they every fire that Fisher, I'd fire my guy in a second to get that King of Mediocrity!" Here say, and hogwash. Yet another example of taking some media myth for gospel. Too many Nashvillians are either brainwashed by him, or blindly in love with him. Maybe he is a hypnotist? Hmmm???

By: producer2 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

Not brainwashed but like you I am entitled to my opinion and IMO I like the fact that we win more than we lose. IF we had Peyton or Brady or even Romo or Farve asour qb then maybe I would concede the point but we do not and I do not see another qb out there with the potential to lead a team with a passing offense as those 3 do.How many games did Volek win while slinging it around? How much has he played in San Diego? How is Dinger doing with that fine offense in Denver, seems he is sitting at home watching us play in the playoffs. What are you going to say if Jacksonville comes in and whips everyones butt this year? Seems they play a similar style of ball and they are the most feared team that no one wants to play coming into the playoffs. If you don't like the show you are watching you can always turn the channel.

By: junebugfan on 12/31/69 at 6:00

Fisher has had three good years since he has been here. One of those years, we were loaded with pro bowl players ('99), one of them (2000?) we had the number one defense in the league, and the other year (2003?) we also had a pretty good D. Perhaps if not for his predictable, simple philosophy of offense, we might have one (or maybe even two) championships. Pounding Eddie worked great in '99, but it eventually took it's toll on his body, and other teams league wide discovered that our offense wasn't evolving, and figured out that all they had to do to stop us was to stack the box, and Fisher would definitely refuse to take advantage with any semblance of a passing game. Since the run in '99, Fisher has won 65 games total - with only 128 REGULAR SEASON games played. That's only 63 won, even if you don't take in to consideration that a couple of those 65 wins were post-season games, which would add to the 128 played total. That also includes the two seasons of 13 & 3. THAT is mediocrity, my friend. I can only hope that Mr. Vanilla won't do everything within his power, as usual, to lose the game Sunday, what with his weekly pregame "keep it close & make a play in the end" speech and all, instead of telling his guys to go out and attack from the start on offense.

By: producer2 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

So when the Titans win it is all because of the players but when we lose it is Fisher's fault? Is he not in charge of the defense as well? I think that is his specialty.....Some stats on Fisher's previous quaterback:McNair's 3,590 career rushing yards and 37 touchdowns rank fifth and third respectively all-time among NFL quarterbacks. Among active quarterbacks, McNair ranks first in both rushing yards and rushing TDs. His 2,387 rushing yards from 1997-2001 also made him one of three quarterbacks in NFL history to rush for more than 2,350 yards in a five-season span.Does that sound like his coach held him back? Or maybe he got those stats in Baltimore.......

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

If you really think teams would not line up to get Fisher, you are sadly mistaken! Three of those seasons were without a TRUE home field advantage and he still guided them to 8-8 seasons. Most coaches would not have gotten 5 wins.

By: producer2 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

Oh I forgot McNair also passed for over 30,000 yards.....

By: junebugfan on 12/31/69 at 6:00

If I don't like what show? What did that mean? Volek didn't win because practically our entire D was out with injury and couldn't stop Vandy. Rivers is a great leader, if not a great QB, and Billy isn't a great leader. Heimerdingers O was working great here with an accurate QB. Shanahan is also a run first guy - not a great fit for Dinger, and is probably being overuled by Mike to that extent. You are dead on about Jacksonville - I actually picked them several weeks ago to go all the way. Jacksonville took what happened to them in our first meeting, and turned it into a positive. (Even though we actually BARELY won that game 13-10) They went from a team that allowed a guy to run for 175yds, to a team that stuffs the run. They ADAPTED. If you look at their offense closely, it doesn't resemble ours all that much. Yes, they have a couple of beasts in Taylor and Jones-Drew, but their passing game isn't anything like ours.

By: junebugfan on 12/31/69 at 6:00

Titan1 - WHERE IS YOUR PROOF OF THAT STATEMENT????? Look at my post. I said SINCE 1999 - the three seasons you speak of were pre-1999.

By: producer2 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

does Shanahan suck as a coach? How exactly is Jacksonville offense different from ours. Run first and use and run a simple pass offense with a mobile quaterback.

By: TRHJR on 12/31/69 at 6:00

Hear ye hear ye hear ye..... 2000 home field advange in the playoffs best record in the league ( I guess) then stinks it up at home with the Ravens.... this was the year that they had the best team and they CHOKED ! now this year up by 14..... CHOKE AGAIN !!! But this whole league is a copy cat league .... all the coaches drink out of the same bottle... one gets fired and his old friends just hire him back.... no new ideas in this league.......

By: junebugfan on 12/31/69 at 6:00

Great stats indeed, producer, and I was a big fan of Steve because of his heart & his guts. He was never an accurate pocket passer, however. All of our receivers ran button hooks and stop routes. No "RAC". He wasn't as good at hitting guys on slants, posts, seam routes, etc., as Volek. He did throw a pretty deep go route, and pretty much invented the deep sideline underthrow that was used by other teams for a while. Look up his most productive year of passing & let me know who the O coordinator was then? If he had been allowed to use that arm in the first half of the '99 SB for something besides handing the ball to Eddie, he'd probably have a ring for the hand on that arm. I remember when the team came back from Jacksonville and they had that deal at the stadium because of the mad scene at BNA after the Colts game (yes - I was there too). When they introduced Les Stekel, the O coordinator - this IMMEDIATELY after winning the AFC championship game - the WHOLE crowd booed loudly in unison. Little did we all know back then that it wasn't actually that poor guys fault.

By: junebugfan on 12/31/69 at 6:00

producer - there is talk in your MEDIA recently of Shanahan possibly loosing his job.

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

I think someone doesn't like him for reasons that have nothing to do with his coaching abilities. LOL! And no, it doesn't take a genius to know that coach Fisher would be a hot commodity on the open market. We WILL win a Super Bowl with him as our head coach, but then the few haters will still not give him credit.

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

TRHJR, 1999, Music City Miracle, then beat Indy on the road, then beat Jacksonville on the road for the third time in the same year, the only team to beat them that year, and we were AFC Champions! Played a great Super Bowl. Get over it, he is a hell of a coach!

By: junebugfan on 12/31/69 at 6:00

TITAN1, your statement of validation for Fisher is in reference to something that ALMOST happened ONE time, NINE years ago. If he wasn't so stubborn, maybe he would have a ring to truly validate your argument. Good luck with your dreams. I do hope that Fisher proves me wrong, and you get to post "I told you so!" to me, but I just can't see him doing it unless he becomes willing to change and adapt. I've been proven wrong before, and I'll be glad to congratulate you if it happens.

By: frank brown on 12/31/69 at 6:00

Producer2::: Did you mean 82 and 67 rather than 82 and 61?

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

jbf, I don't think you even believe what you are saying. For you to say you have never heard of fire coach fisher .com ruins your credibility. It was all over the news and in the papers. The majority of the fans and media were laughing at them for even having it. I think you just like to stir the pot.

By: tresmang on 12/31/69 at 6:00

It doesn't really matter who plays qb.......the Bolts own your team.....buh-bye.....should have been Cleveland anyway......3rd string Colts team and you guys win by 6.....ouch!SD 28Tenn 10

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

tresmang, smoking crack is bad for you. BTW, if you live around here, I am so sorry that you are a misfit.

By: junebugfan on 12/31/69 at 6:00

TITAN1, thanks for calling me a liar, I really appreciate that. Glad to see that you know my intentions and my mind better than myself. I don't watch the news very often. Not a big fan of the media, in case you haven't figured that out yet. I don't even read the city paper much, I just get this email every day from them since I signed up for it, simply because there are daily updates about the Titans practice, injuries, etc. I guess that when all of one's statements are based on urban legends and media spokes persons' blabber, instead of reality, then one is reduced to having to attack someone elses character personally, and calling them a liar. Good job at that, though. Nice going.

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

jbf, you really are full of it! LOL!

By: junebugfan on 12/31/69 at 6:00

Whatever. Just because I'm not a fan of the coach, doesn't mean I'm not a fan of the team. I'll be pulling for them right along with you Sunday.

By: TITAN1 on 12/31/69 at 6:00

LOL!